97 points player85 2 days ago 9 comments

anik200 2 days ago | parent

Good job

hadeer626 1 day ago | parent

Yes

bsaul 1 hour ago | parent

That looks absolutely horrifying. What are the alternatives ??

john01dav 20 minutes ago | parent

I've had opencode go + opencode work reliably, though I'm skeptical of how robust their data security claims are in practice because they suddenly blocked accessing Deepseek unless you were okay with the data going to China where true data privacy for something like that is illegal, which makes me wonder where it went before, which weakens my trust. It's also a lot less useful now that Deepseek is so much more expensive.

Krisso 52 minutes ago | parent

Wish this had more insights on 'cost' - I found OpenRouter credits to burn up fast.

jwrallie 50 minutes ago | parent

I noticed some strange behavior when I was setting it up to avoid providers that collect data, hence blocking default providers. Definitely it is worth filtering well tested providers, which is a feature OpenRouter provides.

joelthelion 28 minutes ago | parent

Excellent post, thanks for the article. This is very relevant for anyone using openrouter and similar services seriously.

I feel there is still a lot of progress to be made before we can really trust LLM providers.

xienze 21 minutes ago | parent

It's good to quantify the extent to which a lot of the stuff on there is just vibe-hosted. But I think it was always pretty apparent that this was the case. You've got numerous providers all running the gamut of:

* Hardware availability

* Competency

* Scruples

kinard 26 minutes ago | parent

great post, I just put $100 in credits on open router to try different models, I think maybe using the "real" provider is the way forward once I've spent my credits and decided which one I want (for now).