YHK - yet another hacker news clone

Show HN: Hacker News, without AI

106 points postalcoder 2 hours ago 62 comments

loldidntwork 2 hours ago | parent

Top article is about AI eliminating jobs, nice attempt tho

postalcoder 2 hours ago | parent

Where?

TouchGrass 2 hours ago | parent

This site can’t be reached The connection was reset. Try:

Checking the connection Checking the proxy and the firewall ERR_CONNECTION_RESET

postalcoder 2 hours ago | parent

I'm guessing this is a cloudflare issue? Try again, I turned bot protection off. The site was getting flooded by requests from bot scrapers.

Gualdrapo 1 hour ago | parent

First one atm is about HuggingFace.

niyonx 1 hour ago | parent

Great use of AI

chilipepperhott 1 hour ago | parent

This one actually works: https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai

postalcoder 1 hour ago | parent

I see like ten stories on this page.

vanschelven 1 hour ago | parent

count yourself lucky, tomorrow it will be 9

basch 1 hour ago | parent

still prefer the simplicity of a reverse river, with a focus on votes and comments https://hckrnews.com/

its incredibly easy to immediately tell when something was posted, and how popular it was. there s no automagic rearranging or movement.

similar to https://techmeme.com/river

postalcoder 1 hour ago | parent

Open up the settings bar at the top and set the story layout to "hckr". That layout is directly inspired by hckrnews.com.

dorkrawk 1 hour ago | parent

For Hacker News without AI, can I suggest the domain of news.ycombntor.com ?

snarf21 1 hour ago | parent

I regret that I had but one upvote to give to this comment. Well played!

postalcoder 1 hour ago | parent

Behold, the power of suggestion: https://news.ycombntor.com

ant6n 12 minutes ago | parent

Took me a while to get this one.

postalcoder 1 hour ago | parent

Just a few high level points about how this works. It works in multiple stages:

  1. I apply a domain and keyword filter to the feed
  2. The content of the remaining articles are run twice daily through a Modern Bert-based classifier fine-tuned to detect AI-related content (~8000 training examples)[0].
It also filters out Github repos that contain AI authorship. My backend scans:

  - Commit messages for agent attribution
  - The contributor graph for agents
  - Repo files for instructions/configs
RSS feed here: https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=exclude

HN Frontpage minus AI: https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&ai=exclude

You may also like Small Web HN: https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&smallweb=include

0: The original workflow for this was a little different. For the better part of the past year, I had an AI agent detect AI-related stories and raise ~20 stories to me to make a judgement call on. After a while, a workflow like this just doesn't make sense when small models can do it equally as well. The training data is based on the machine and my labeling.

bananaflag 1 hour ago | parent

Funny how it uses AI

postalcoder 1 hour ago | parent

Ethical, grass-fed AI!

NeedNewForums 49 minutes ago | parent

I like AI just hate Claude and Anslopic ads 24/7

RIMR 1 hour ago | parent

The first link is about HuggingFace, lmao.

account42 1 hour ago | parent

First post shown right now is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49659245 which is essentially an ad for an AI company. So I guess this will need further fine tuning.

amelius 1 hour ago | parent

Maybe use AI to filter the posts? :)

busymom0 1 hour ago | parent

Here's how mine looks using my method:

https://imgur.com/a/P1qMIok

9 out of 30 posts have been removed.

Steps:

Install uBlock Origin Lite. Then create a custom filter:

    news.ycombinator.com##tr.athing:has(a:has-text(/\b(?:A\.?I\.?|A\.?G\.?I\.?|LLMs?|GPTs?|TPU|NPU|RAG|MoE|RLHF|xAI)\b|Anthropic|agent|super-?intelligence|Blackwell|Cerebras|ChatGPT|Claude|Cohere|Command\s*R|Context\s*window|Copilot|Cursor|DALL-E|deep\s*learning|DeepSeek|ElevenLabs|Fine-tun(?:e|ing)|Flux|Gemini|GenAI|Generative|Gemma|Grok|Groq|H100|Hallucination|harness(?:es)?|Hugging\s*Face|LangChain|Llama|LlamaIndex|Midjourney|Mistral|Ollama|OpenAI|OpenRouter|Perplexity|prompt|Qwen|Runway\s*(?:AI|ML)|Gen-[1-4](?:\.5)?|Sora|Synthetic\s*data|token|vibecod|vLLM|Whisper/i)):xpath(. | following-sibling::tr[1])
Any improvements to above filter are welcome.

layer8 1 hour ago | parent

If you prefer something closer to the original layout: https://www.unslop.news/

otherayden 1 hour ago | parent

Thank you for sharing my site :)

layer8 1 hour ago | parent

Thank you for basically only filtering and not changing the style. :)

gonzalohm 1 hour ago | parent

Do you know if there is a way of pointing any of the hackernews phone apps to your site instead of the official one?

otherayden 1 hour ago | parent

I don't personally use those apps so I'm not sure, but if they're open source I'm confident you could easily update them to work with my site. In case it's useful, here's the source code https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai

toomuchtodo 1 hour ago | parent

Huh, perhaps there is a project to be done to consume the HN firehose and serve it AT Proto style from the firehose. HN mobile clients can then pick the feed they want. AI? No AI? Politics? No politics? Frameworks? No frameworks? Choose your own HN post feed adventure. Read replica esq consumption, writes (comments, posts, votes) go to the primary data store (HN).

xvinci 22 minutes ago | parent

It does not have a license so it cannot be used though.

visarga 1 hour ago | parent

Do you have one but only with AI? like, a toggle on what side to see?

Edit: ah yes, sure it exists

postalcoder 1 hour ago | parent

I'm thinking you saw it but yeah, you can only have AI news if you invert the argument: https://hcker.news/?ai=include

jrm4 1 hour ago | parent

This feels like trying to do "Hacker News, without 'the Internet.'"

NeedNewForums 50 minutes ago | parent

People were actually complaining specifically about OpenAI/Anthropic glazing and the countless influencer comments and posts here every hour.

And it's getting twisted into "People want HN without AI."

But that was never the case. I mean some surely do. But the blow-up this morning was specific to Anthropic ads to the point there's basically no information on this website that isn't related to Anthropic or OpenAI.

If it was announced some rando kid made a LLM in PHP or something, sure share it! If it was announced someone actually made something cool with AI (lol) then share it!

But Claude 24/7 aint it. It's at least extremely boring!

jessetemp 1 hour ago | parent

There is also the hide button under every post, which I’ve started using generously. It only takes a few seconds to clean up the front page to your taste

datakan 1 hour ago | parent

I'm mixed on that. Definitely topics I hide when I think people can't discuss them like adults, but sometimes even bad stories have some great discussions in them.

gdulli 1 hour ago | parent

I have a cron job that logs in and hides stuff based on a big list of keywords and domains I'm not interested in.

sejje 1 hour ago | parent

Top story: huggingface

bronlund 1 hour ago | parent

This is like; during a war, when you just want to read the news without anything about the war :D

armchairhacker 57 minutes ago | parent

“Keep Calm and Carry On”?

TIL it was rare in the actual wartime (WWII) and only became popular in 2000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On

Tepix 1 hour ago | parent

You need to search deeper!

Looking at the iPod 6G QEMU emulation story:

> "With the help of Claude Code, I was able to create code to extract it using emCORE."

ranger_danger 21 minutes ago | parent

Depends on what you want "without AI" to mean... is it just stories about AI, or anything that an AI has touched at all? Or purely vibe-coded projects?

nonsensical_ 1 hour ago | parent

I prefer lobste.rs for this.

ChrisArchitect 56 minutes ago | parent

We just did this last month;

Stick to sharing your thing in the current thread today:

Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850

tcfhgj 48 minutes ago | parent

Hacker News, without AI needs to be a plugin for Firefox - I don´t really want to use two pages at the same time.

nilsherzig 46 minutes ago | parent

If a Userscript solution is fine for you, see my recent comments :)

nilsherzig 3 minutes ago | parent

added a firefox extension :)

postalcoder 7 minutes ago | parent

Then just use one! https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hcker-news/

nilsherzig 47 minutes ago | parent

Here is an approach to filtering LLM written content: https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/

Instead of filtering keywords this ranks the content using Pangram. But it's also pretty effective at filtering content about AI. Turns out that a lot of LLM tooling projects have LLM written project descriptions/blog posts.

It's amazing to see how many of the "AI hurts my brain" posts are apparently written by an LLM.

nilsherzig 42 minutes ago | parent

nvm sorry, just read the "how this works" comment from OP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49660301

OPs solution does more than keyword filtering. But its still about filtering out "content about ai" not filtering out "ai written content".

postalcoder 35 minutes ago | parent

Nice! I was considering doing this but the Pangram API is very expensive. Then I considered training my own model and I fortunately stopped at the edge of that rabbit hole.

nilsherzig 27 minutes ago | parent

Yea very expensive (hence me siphoning another page haha).

Im trying to get something cheaper to work, Pangram has some nice docs on how to build something like their service https://github.com/pangramlabs/EditLens, they even have training data online.

The harm a missclassification carries is much lower for a hn post than a masters thesis, so we might be fine with a worse model.

postalcoder 13 minutes ago | parent

Yeah agree, Pangram puts out interesting material. I recently came across their v4 technical report and they shared a lot more than I would have expected them to.

But see, here I am back at the edge of the rabbit hole, and you're trying to pull me in. I refuse!

If you do end up training a model, send me an email and maybe I can tie it into the site.

nilsherzig 5 minutes ago | parent

Will do, thanks for hcker.news btw, has been my main mobile client for couple of months. Of all things i like the changelog most, its nice to have a quick view about new stuff, especially if the website changes somewhat faster than usual.

verdverm 46 minutes ago | parent

Is it still hacker news if you manipulate the listing based on your own bias?

I suppose it depends on what point of view we answer from. It is very hacker-newsery to make something like this

mpalmer 41 minutes ago | parent

I quite like this, particularly that the filter is just a preset! Will be back.

Minor UI feedback - when navigating comments (and maybe other stuff) with the keyboard, the actual focus change is blocked behind some automated scroll behavior, and the effect is that someone quickly hitting keybinds will collapse the wrong thread. Would suggest making the focus change happen concurrently.

postalcoder 32 minutes ago | parent

Thanks for the feedback. Comment drawer nav could be a lot better. I started working on the keyboard nav but got distracted with other things. I'll fix it.

sochowski 36 minutes ago | parent

i can't tell if the slop ui or the slop posts are worse

grandwizardmarv 35 minutes ago | parent

Good idea but needs a stronger filter

flashu 32 minutes ago | parent

Finally, I am really sick of eye-based filtering AI trash

thisisauserid 26 minutes ago | parent

Ironically, this is trivial to build with LLMs.