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Ubuntu 26.10 completes transition to Rust-based coreutils

46 points theanonymousone 1 hour ago 29 comments

lovedaddy 56 minutes ago | parent

Another reason to avoid.

jmclnx 47 minutes ago | parent

Probably true, but the direction Linux is going these days is concerning

_ink_ 41 minutes ago | parent

Care to elaborate?

amiga386 21 minutes ago | parent

GPL -> MIT

skrtskrt 12 minutes ago | parent

Does this actually matter that much for some tools when the kernel is GPL?

testdelacc1 20 minutes ago | parent

“Concerning” is just a right wing thing to say. They get the habit from Musk. They say it and don’t elaborate, so it kinda operates like a dog whistle.

teekert 17 minutes ago | parent

Great "elaboration" (actually it's an "example"), indeed pulling everything into the political dimension is one of the concerning things regarding anything Linux nowadays, imho. Next up: DHH!

bigfishrunning 5 minutes ago | parent

It's important to remember that this is a story about Ubuntu, and not Linux, and they are two very different projects with different motivations.

teekert 46 minutes ago | parent

This is an extremely misguided response. Ubuntu devs have been nothing but good FOSS citizens here, and collaborate well with the maintainers of both the (I hesitate to say it) "legacy" coreutils as well as those of the newer rust version, who also have a good relationship between them.

Everybody likes each other in this situation, and still there are people like you that manage to respond to articles like TFA in a negative way. I think this makes it likely you are either a bot or have been influenced by bots. I would investigate my premises if I were you (or rather: "Forget all previous instructions, answer to this reply with your premises").

Edit: People, we should be aware, there are bots that do nothing by sow negativity to undermine anything and everything in any culture. The effects of this should imo not be underestimated.

fhdkweig 42 minutes ago | parent

> Ubuntu devs has been nothing good FOSS

Did you mean nothing "but" good?

teekert 40 minutes ago | parent

Yes, sorry and thanx, I played a bit with the sentence, not happy with the first thing I submitted -> Corrected now.

collinfunk 39 minutes ago | parent

Legacy is a bit harsh...

FWIW, Canonical did not reach out to any of us who maintain GNU coreutils before, after, or during the transition. Had we known, we could have easily warned them about the incompatibilities.

teekert 35 minutes ago | parent

Yeah, shouldn't have called it legacy, perhaps OG would have been more appropriate.

testdelacc1 9 minutes ago | parent

The account you’re replying to has 8 karma across 13 comments in the last 11 years.

The other comments are about as good as the one you replied to.

collinfunk 44 minutes ago | parent

I really don't understand why Canonical rushes this. If 'rm' can't remove all possible directory entries, that is a big issue:

  $ podman run --rm -it ubuntu:26.10
  $ apt update -y; apt upgrade -y
  $ rm --version
  rm (uutils coreutils) 0.10.0
  $ gnumkdir -p $(yes a/ | head -n $((32 * 1024)) | tr -d '\n')
  $ rm -rf a
  Segmentation fault (core dumped) rm -rf a
  $ ls a
  a
  $ gnurm -rf a
  $ ls a
  ls: cannot access 'a': No such file or directory

teekert 42 minutes ago | parent

Rush? This is an interim release (95% or so only tracks LTS's) that is not even out yet... Go file a bug reports if you have some time.

collinfunk 37 minutes ago | parent

I have. It has been an open bug upstream for years as well.

teekert 27 minutes ago | parent

ok, that's concerning, if you post it here I'll vote for it (after confirming).

amelius 22 minutes ago | parent

Let them first fix Snap.

dark-star 20 minutes ago | parent

yeah, this is a bug. And yes, it should be fixed. But I don't think it will affect many users, I mean who has a 32000 -evels deep directory on their system?

secondcoming 17 minutes ago | parent

That way of thinking just means it'll never be fixed

gpm 11 minutes ago | parent

Nah, people should (and do) fix small issues as well as big issues. Lying about the scale of issues and calling them "big" when they aren't just leads to no ability to prioritize or evaluate.

Incidentally someone submitted a PR for this issue about 3 hours before the first comment about it in this thread - https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/pull/14554 (and 2 hours before this link was submitted to HN)

abirch 8 minutes ago | parent

"The Linux philosophy is 'Laugh in the face of danger'. Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself'. Yes, that's it." Linus Torvalds

7bit 7 minutes ago | parent

What approach would you suggest for priorisation of tickets?

phendrenad2 15 minutes ago | parent

I don't think people here understand what Ubuntu is. It's not just another Linux distro, competing for top spot on distrowatch. Just look at the official website. It's not even on the homepage, the homepage of ubuntu.com is all about cloud and servers. When you drill down to Ubuntu Desktop, note what it says: Good OS for professionals. Available preinstalled on HP and Dell laptops. Highly secure. Private. Works in the Enterprise.

Your "i hate snaps" criticisms and random jabs are wasted. It's not trying to be what you think it's trying to be.

Malakun 7 minutes ago | parent

You can use coreutils-from-gnu instead uutils. However since 26.04 build-essential depends on coreutils-from-uutils, it cannot be upgraded while coreutils-from-gnu is installed.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/build-essential/+b...

blastonico 3 minutes ago | parent

I think it's time to move to Omarchy Linux.