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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

40 points lukaspetersson 40 minutes ago 38 comments

mcmcmc 31 minutes ago | parent

Filing false reports to the FBI is a crime. Why would anyone trust this with a real business? Y’all should be prosecuted

johnnyApplePRNG 30 minutes ago | parent

8 points in 9 minutes?!

Bullshit...

dang come on man ...

this is obvious spam

lukaspetersson 24 minutes ago | parent

I thought HN was good at filtering it? We didn't try to create any spam at least.

Sivart13 29 minutes ago | parent

I wish we could go just one day without a company proudly engaging in Torment Nexus related activities.

lukaspetersson 22 minutes ago | parent

We think this is good for the world. Longer argument in the post.

mcmcmc 19 minutes ago | parent

You literally talk about committing a crime and blame it on a model

apsurd 9 minutes ago | parent

maybe ill read the article, but i mean you’re financially motivated to think its good for the world arent you?

humans are excellent at justification.

cyanydeez 13 minutes ago | parent

it's interesting how the torment nexus is starting large, and boiling the most people with the "most comfortable" lives. I wonder how long the white collar workers will keep bending over to keep their lives safet, particularly when they're building the Torment Nexus to specifically torment them.

You'd think Meta's "we're going to spy on you for the good of the country" policy would have set them a bit on fire.

aschobel 28 minutes ago | parent

Ah, I wonder if it makes sense to also include the sign up link in the blog post? I had to click into the HN comments section to see your sign up link

lukaspetersson 22 minutes ago | parent

Good point. Here it is: https://andonlabs.com/pion

kaishiro 25 minutes ago | parent

The upvotes on this brand new post - almost 1 a minute, speak to a level of astro-turfing I've rarely seen here.

lukaspetersson 23 minutes ago | parent

It's not from us. Didn't send the link to a single person.

andriy_koval 22 minutes ago | parent

How can we know this?..

lukaspetersson 22 minutes ago | parent

No way to confirm. True.

tomhow 16 minutes ago | parent

The post was placed on the front page via second chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/pool, explained here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308). This happens all the time on HN.

The voting is legitimate; there's no evidence that the voting is from sockpuppets or anyone else connected with the team/project. We always monitor the discussion and the voting, and if the discussion is not of sufficient quality, the post will not stay on the front page for long.

fcjr 22 minutes ago | parent

Pion is already the name of a very well established webrtc project: https://github.com/pion/webrtc

IsTom 10 minutes ago | parent

It's also a particle and a self-propelled gun. There's a limited number of short legible words.

Sean-Der 7 minutes ago | parent

I chose the name because of the particle.

I sent a letter to the Soviet Union asking if they were ok with me using the name, never heard back!

Sean-Der 9 minutes ago | parent

I am waiting for my trillion dollar offer to buy https://pion.ly !

Then I am all done fixing WebRTC bugs for life :')

LargeWu 19 minutes ago | parent

Does Pion run Andon Labs autonomously?

LargeWu 13 minutes ago | parent

Downvote if you want, but this is a very relevant question. If their marketing is to be believed, they would be eating their own dog food.

This very analog to the Meta executives who won't let their own kids near social media.

aschobel 4 minutes ago | parent

there seems to be a massive negativity to any comment on this story. Andolabs has been doing super interesting stuff, and I’ve always followed Vend Bench with interest.

as a founder it really is a dream to automated more of the business and be able to iterate faster.

hartator 18 minutes ago | parent

Don’t get the negativity here, AI will replace everything sooner or later.

SandersAK 18 minutes ago | parent

read it as Prion, and hoo-boy, did that seem seriously ironic.

compiler-guy 18 minutes ago | parent

As I write this, the submitter has six comments out of twelve, most somewhat defensive. And all of them in less than thirty minutes. This seems very much like a marketing play, where the submitter is pretty determined to steer the narrative.

I recommend flagging.

tomhow 11 minutes ago | parent

The submitter's replies are defensive because people are accusing them of coordinated voting, which is not evident to us. The post hit the front page due to the second chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/pool, explained here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308), then quickly got upvotes that seem completely authentic.

compiler-guy 5 minutes ago | parent

It would look a lot less like astroturf if the submitter let the discussion evolve instead of answering every criticism within seconds of it being posted.

ac29 18 minutes ago | parent

Relevant article about Andon Market: https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/san-francisco-market-ai...

ValueTheory 17 minutes ago | parent

What is the point of this? It details a bunch of failed real-world experiments and invites the reader to run their own real-world experiment with their own money?

If you too, want to waste thousands of dollars having an LLM "run" a business, Pion might be for you.

DenisM 9 minutes ago | parent

I like to think the real world lessons in failures are valuable.

If I have this idea one day I will search for it and then think “how am I different fro that which already failed?”.

polytely 16 minutes ago | parent

how does this work from a liability standpoint? seems very risky for the person who is legally responsible for the business

piterrro 9 minutes ago | parent

Interesting to see these experiments. This is early but imagine in few years there will be companies mostly run by agents with a light overview from a human operator. What then happens to scaling of the bussinesses? I would assume, just like today anyone can vibe code an app, there will be vibecoded bussinesses. Maybe its time to start building infrastructure for these bussinesses instead, its a non existent market yet, but give it a few years.