49 points bsimpson 30 minutes ago 13 comments

bigyabai 15 minutes ago | parent

Also exciting, Valve has finally started shipping native ARM/FEX builds of Proton 11: https://www.pcgamer.com/games/vr/valves-latest-proton-11-bet...

Will be super interesting to benchmark various ARM chips and see where they land performance-wise!

cassianoleal 14 minutes ago | parent

Yeah this could open up a whole new category of lightweight gaming PCs.

mrpippy 10 minutes ago | parent

AFAIK they still aren't shipping an actual ARM64 version of Steam, making it difficult to actually use those (unsupported) ARM builds of Proton. That article is 5 months old.

ricardobeat 9 minutes ago | parent

At current hardware prices, this is worth buying to use as a server!

idontwantthis 8 minutes ago | parent

That’s a remarkably cheap storage upgrade too. First time I’ve ever thought the upgrade would be worth the money.

LarsDu88 7 minutes ago | parent

At basically quest 3 levels of on device performance, this thing better have amazing software. This price is way too high.

Our expectations have been warped by Meta's decade long subsidization of VR hardware

demo4567 2 minutes ago | parent

lmao. n o. thats meta and this steam. iykyk

SequoiaHope 2 minutes ago | parent

For me a lot of the value comes from the freedom you get with frame. Valve says “it’s your PC, install what you want” and it runs an open source OS. It’s the first truly Linux friendly headset (it runs arch btw) and I don’t have to send my data to Meta. Also foveated streaming means, according to reviewers, a pretty decent wireless PCVR experience. I can’t wait to play half life Alyx without a tether. Valve is just doing something very different from meta.

ramesh31 1 minute ago | parent

Quest 3 is a mindblowing piece of hardware completely ruined by the runtime and vendor. This is basically it as a Linux machine you actually own. That being said, my Quest has sat on the shelf for years now since purchasing. I just don't really see a market for these things outside of simulation enthusiasts.

accrual 5 minutes ago | parent

GamersNexus released a video comparing the Frame VR vs Meta Quest 3 today, worth a watch for the Frame review alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcerOYY_K1g

xlayn 5 minutes ago | parent

PLEASE DON'T BUY FROM STEAM, This guy has a defacto monopoly in games that you can't break, NEVER, before them, you were able to buy from sony, from nintendo, from microsoft, from ebay, from GOG, from game stop, buy a game from walmart, trade games with your friends, heck even X the app that does everything had games, now only this... the owner is SUCH A JERK that he bought a nice house and a nice car! And not only that, it's a fricking solomunist, not com, not soc... solomunist... because all the money goes to him and nothing but him...

PLEASE LET EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE STEAM FRAMES ROT THERE.... so nobody spends time on them, not scalpers, not bots..... I'll buy one just to let him know that I KNOW...

(hopefully I can get enough people signed on to avoid waiting 10 years for 1)

Yes this is sarcasm you downvoters...

othomp 4 minutes ago | parent

Hopefully it's possible to use eye tracking as a pointer in desktop mode. I'd like to connect only a keyboard and use binds to emulate clicks.

vallerie 3 minutes ago | parent

I do hope Valve's work on ARM64 for this, alongside improvements to performance in Honeykrisp, make for a dramatically better experience with Linux on Apple Silicon Macs.

They're very lovely devices with big GPUs, and I would love to (one day when ram prices go back to normal!) repurpose my M3 Max as a under TV Steam Machine when I upgrade.