30 points TMWNN 1 hour ago 62 comments
izzydata 32 minutes ago | parent
garyfirestorm 23 minutes ago | parent
Freedom2 18 minutes ago | parent
seattle_spring 14 minutes ago | parent
orangedog 13 minutes ago | parent
sega_sai 12 minutes ago | parent
jrflowers 5 minutes ago | parent
Like you own a coffee shop and you’ve freed up one hour in the 12 weeks before you have to make a new sign, what do you do in that hour that makes the coffee better?
ratelimitsteve 21 minutes ago | parent
brandon272 11 minutes ago | parent
jrflowers 10 minutes ago | parent
nyc_data_geek1 32 minutes ago | parent
childofhedgehog 23 minutes ago | parent
tolerance 22 minutes ago | parent
> They gave her a day to "think about it."
When this is sort of behavior that the "good guys" advance then it's hard not to expect a "bad guy" with money to show up on the scene and thwart it.
cricketsandmops 20 minutes ago | parent
Imnimo 20 minutes ago | parent
ratelimitsteve 18 minutes ago | parent
kbelder 15 minutes ago | parent
It's bullying.
cmiles8 20 minutes ago | parent
One group of folks is trying to say we basically have AGI. The other group is pointing to AI that remains very limited and where lowly humans can spot anything it’s created from a mile away. The evidence continues to point towards the later.
orangedog 17 minutes ago | parent
For every person who can spot it a mile away I wonder how many false positives they have or simply aren't aware of it. If you're looking for it, with people using it a lot these days, of course you are going to have a high success rate.
But really I don't think it falls neatly into either of those categories.
pixl97 17 minutes ago | parent
wackget 19 minutes ago | parent
This seems like the wrong attitude to take after experiencing such a backlash. If she'd made the signs herself for years then why resort to using AI to produce what is so obviously a generic slop result?
The article says she paid $150 for printing and $200 for a stand. Why not throw another $200 towards an artist?
kevmo 12 minutes ago | parent
Chance-Device 18 minutes ago | parent
sleepybrett 17 minutes ago | parent
Chance-Device 15 minutes ago | parent
jplusequalt 17 minutes ago | parent
This has always been a thing.
tomjen3 6 minutes ago | parent
Chance-Device 3 minutes ago | parent
sleepybrett 18 minutes ago | parent
This primarily, for me, has resulted in me ignoring a lot of long winded tickets.
the user a generate's email/documentation/whatever via claude > sent to user b > user b uses claude to summarize it ... loop is shitty.
This applies less to me for code as long as you are reviewing it throughly and 'sculpting' it throughly to make it readable/maintainable.
Care about your work if you want me to care about your work.
HanShotFirst 16 minutes ago | parent
That said, my own aesthetic sense is very much turned off by them. It is hard for me to articulate why, but I can name four reasons:
- The food never actually looks good, real, or delicious;
- The information is presented in a haphazard way, with text randomly thrown all over the place;
- There is really only one kind of "style" of these signs that I've seen, and it's sad to think that this style (or lack thereof) may become ubiquitous;
- In a world where AI feels increasingly shoved down our throats, it is unnerving to so suddenly see its rise manifested in the physical world.
dwedge 13 minutes ago | parent
Articles like this always rub me the wrong way. I don't know the term for it, but I feel you should be able to make the point without making us picture a new mother getting stressed breast pumping in the middle of the night.
mft_ 9 minutes ago | parent
That said, I also feel that the level of negativity the lady suffered was a little out of proportion to her 'crime' - essentially amounting to bullying.
k310 12 minutes ago | parent
The owner had to resort to her standby Canva when the employee left, but lacking time due to a newborn.
To me, having followed all kinds of embedded links over to Vermont and Germany, the latter example being extraordinarily unappetizing. [0]
Stepping back to get the big picture, it seems to me that small business owners have gotten spoiled by local artists and artistic employees who created really beautiful signs and brochures. Come crunch time, it's either pay a local artist or DIY. And to get "pretty" artwork, many resort to AI, which mostly ain't pretty, sometimes pretty grotesque.
But this seems to be a case of wanting things both ways. AI is famous for really bizarre food rendering, as exhibited below. Customers really want food and preparation to look real. So why not set up a simple grid (say, Pages on a mac or Libre Office or Scribus) and pair the best photo you can grab with a description opposite it, on a nice background?
Other than KISS, you can get excellent art for a price, or slop for cheap (or at least, artificial art that advertises itself as such).
Increasing costs affect not only businesses, but people needing work, some of whom have lost jobs and income, are understandably upset.
The workflow I described can be done for little cost if DIY is not suitable, perhaps even a local photography class (who would work for (coffee) beans?)
I refer friends learning photography, intrigued by their phone cameras, and wanting to expand their skill set, to community college and other classes. Maybe even one of those starving artists.
Businesses brag about sourcing locally. I see a way to do so, but good art requires good artists, just as product photography requires some skill.
You can't have it all, or damn cheap. You must choose wisely.
P.S. My Dad was a commercial artist and I am an amateur photographer. And I make my own coffee. Yikes, the cost. If it's atmosphere, do put some nice art on the walls and let the product speak for itself.
My two cents, or "Sixbucks" worth.
cowanon77 9 minutes ago | parent
The problem is it all looks the same, and those of us who are terminally online are exposed to it non-stop. AI slop seems to be poisoning every space that used to have quality conversations, and mass un-employing many creative professions.
People do have the right to vote with their feet though - it is perfectly ethical to support coffee shops that support the local artist community and avoid ones with AI "art". Too bad we've mostly lost the ability to rationally discuss things, instead of resorting to threats right off the bat.
inoop 7 minutes ago | parent
sippingabonedry 5 minutes ago | parent
Never let the mob win. They don't deserve her coffee, good riddance.
If you are sending threats to strangers on social media you are at minimum mentally ill, she has something to gain by losing them as customers.
Small businesses barely get by. Someone with work as transient as "artist" should know better.
viktorcode 2 minutes ago | parent
slibhb 1 minute ago | parent
That aside, if you spend 5 minutes prompting AI, you can create an image that no one will clock as AI.