94 points witweb 39 minutes ago 42 comments

solox3 19 minutes ago | parent

> US President Donald Trump earlier called the idea "laughable" and threatened "very serious tariffs" on Europe if he considered it a "hostile act".

So if Canada tries to make friends with anyone other than the US, it's a hostile act?

Makes it all the more obvious that USA is Canada's abusive partner, that they should have broken up with a long time ago.

etiennebausson 17 minutes ago | parent

I try not to take anything Trump say too seriously, but we have to remember that the USians chose him... twice.

martythemaniak 16 minutes ago | parent

Why would you not take him seriously?

etiennebausson 14 minutes ago | parent

Because he can't string together a coherent sentence?

jacquesm 9 minutes ago | parent

That doesn't really matter. What matters is that he commands the most powerful (probably?) offensive force on the planet and has already shown that he is more than willing to use it to achieve is nonsense objectives.

SketchySeaBeast 4 minutes ago | parent

But he's using that babble to demand very real, very grow up, wars.

Maskawanian 17 minutes ago | parent

Agreed, and the possibility of visa free travel to the EU, plus the removal of live/work barriers is appealing. The USA really comes off as the spurned ex that calls you drunk in the middle of the night.

larodi 14 minutes ago | parent

is it not visa free already for most of the states anyway?

Maskawanian 12 minutes ago | parent

Generally it is auto approved for Canadians, but you will soon need to do an "ETIAS travel authorization".

vrganj 16 minutes ago | parent

"No Russian leader could stand idly by in the face of steps toward NATO membership for Ukraine. That would be a hostile act toward Russia"

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraines-future-in-nato-prec...

Geeek 12 minutes ago | parent

Why in the world do these articles not have published dates on them?

monkey_monkey 4 minutes ago | parent

[delayed]

pmontra 4 minutes ago | parent

I see "Jul 12, 2023, 5:56 PM GMT+2" right before "After this week's NATO summit in Lithuania..."

chinathrow 12 minutes ago | parent

They're not even hiding it any more. Look who paid for one of his sons wedding...

Tade0 6 minutes ago | parent

This was such a weird gesture. Why did they need anyone to pay for the wedding and why did it have to be someone with ties to Putin?

koolba 14 minutes ago | parent

> So if Canada tries to make friends with anyone other than the US, it's a hostile act?

I believe the terms in human relationships are coercive control and social isolation.

Hamuko 12 minutes ago | parent

Trump has already been threatening Canada and EU at various times already. Why should they assume a) this will be any different b) he'll stop if they do what he wants?

Roscius 12 minutes ago | parent

Carney has extremely strong support amongst the general public in Canada which hasn't been the case for the Canadian PM over the past 20+ years.

158 Canadian soldiers died defending the United States at the US's request after 9/11. Canadian fighter jets helped to patrol the skies in the US at the US's request after 9/11.

The insults coming from the US Secretary of Defence and President are not unnoticed. They are logged and remembered.

jacquesm 11 minutes ago | parent

It's pretty much the exact same playbook that Russia used against Ukraine.

dofm 5 minutes ago | parent

Pretty much exactly this.

A whole lot of Trump's psychology has always been "it's your fault I hurt you" for the longest time — it's a very clear undercurrent in how he treated his first wife.

He's an abuser. And now so is the USA.

Lio 3 minutes ago | parent

As I said it in another post what does Trump expect? His negotiations are all stick and no carrot.

Canada is bound to look for new trade opportunities in the face of that.

You do make a deal with Trump, it's always worse than what you had before.

Then, no mater what you do, he breaks the deal 3 months later with some kind of implied military threat if you complain.

close04 15 minutes ago | parent

> US President Donald Trump earlier called the idea "laughable" and threatened "very serious tariffs" on Europe if he considered it a "hostile act".

There's a lawsuit [1] on the way related to the Epstein files so this Canada-EU topic gives Trump the perfect opportunity to divert the attention.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/09/lawsuit-trump-do...

HelloUsername 11 minutes ago | parent

Related: "EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member' (bbc.com)" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49724141 863 comments

delichon 10 minutes ago | parent

Reaction from the Canadian opposition leader:

  The Prime Minister can’t seem to get his story straight about the “associate membership,” “unique alliance,” or whatever else he is negotiating with the EU.

  Conservatives are clear: we support the decades-old free trade & NATO defence alliance with Europe.

  But no EU taxes, no EU laws, and no EU open-border immigration policies should be imposed on Canadians.

  Canada must be independent and sovereign. Period.
https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/2100274078066036766

Maskawanian 6 minutes ago | parent

This is the same PP that grasped defeat in the face of victory, and is continually losing support, relegating himself to the same position of the Reform party that it was in the 90's. The same Polly that lost his riding last election, and had to have one handed to him on a silver spoon. I would take his opinion with a grain of salt.

MrGilbert 6 minutes ago | parent

> EU open-border immigration policies should be imposed on Canadians

Not sure what's meant by that... People won't start swimming over the atlantic ocean. And flights to Canada aren't really cheap, by any means.

victorbjorklund 4 minutes ago | parent

Schengen and EU isn’t the same.

yreg 4 minutes ago | parent

Seems like he's attacking a bunch of strawmen.

sicktriple 3 minutes ago | parent

Classic Conservative move of building a strawman and arguing against it. None of these deals would involve taxes, EU "laws" (whatever that means) or border agreements. He's using the boogeyman of "ew brown people" to scare his base.

Apparently, even Canadian conservatives are happy to grovel at the feet of the Burger Reich and their supreme leader.

john_strinlai 2 minutes ago | parent

were taxes, laws, or open-border immigration policies ever even mentioned, at all? or is he just saying things?

WarmWash 9 minutes ago | parent

Meanwhile, Alberta, where all of Canada's "energy security" is located, is holding a secession referendum on Oct 19.

The chances of Canada getting everyone to go along with this are close to zero. (As are the chances of Alberta actually seceding).

It's just political theater

lostmsu 2 minutes ago | parent

[delayed]

flowerlad 6 minutes ago | parent

Can the blue states of USA become associate members too? He has declared that the blue states are the "enemy from within" and may launch the military against us soon.

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/30/nx-s1-5557232/hegseth-general...

bsoqk 6 minutes ago | parent

Between this and Australia, looking forward to getting half of Asia in Europe, as if we didn’t have severe enough problems.

donbox 2 minutes ago | parent

Care to explain how Asia comes into picture. Please.