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Vinix – A modern operating system written in V

30 points hggh 1 hour ago 15 comments

foul 50 minutes ago | parent

How are things going with V btw? In the past i've seen some bad press about this programming language.

It was nice to use when I tried to dabble with it.

novacrazy 46 minutes ago | parent

How this scam language gained traction is beyond me.

ecto 45 minutes ago | parent

How can a language be a scam?

MisterTea 38 minutes ago | parent

I have no opinion on the subject but I have found this to be an interesting dive into the supposed controversy: https://justinas.org/the-bizarre-world-of-v

novacrazy 33 minutes ago | parent

The first release was just Go's parser ripped out and bolted onto a barebones first year of college level compiler, and touted as "safer than Rust", "compiles in milliseconds", etc. but didn't even have real type-checking at the time, nor did it free memory, and many other basic functionality. Furthermore, I vividly remember the author's Patreon advertised at the top of the page back then, and for a while he raked in a couple thousand dollars a month for it.

However, over the years some actually talented people (and nowadays probably LLMs) have somehow sort of fixed most of the biggest warts, but it's still nowhere near what it advertised in that first release.

morpheos137 22 minutes ago | parent

Lol this is interesting. If you want to make money you can "invent" a language. With LLMs you could probably make it pretty decent too.

giancarlostoro 22 minutes ago | parent

What's wild is I was looking at the language's home page again, and looking to find their GitHub, the first GitHub link I noticed, is the GitHub sponsors link.

I don't mind supporting a project like this, but this is a bit excessive.

Was it really Go's parser? That wouldn't surprise me, but also that kind of makes sense to me why it looked a bit 'familiar' in terms of syntax.

It's definitely been "alpha" tier for a while, which it doesnt help that the developer doesn't outline any sort of stability that I can recall (back then at least) which imho if you're publishing a language, you should let the reader know.

torstenvl 18 minutes ago | parent

Can you explain what you mean by this? They haven't had a first release yet. They're still in beta.

novacrazy 15 minutes ago | parent

That's being pedantic. The first public announcement was many years ago.

torstenvl 12 minutes ago | parent

It appears you're calling something a scam because an early alpha version was early alpha quality. If so, that would be unprofessional and inflammatory.

I'm open to being wrong. So again, can you explain what you mean?

novacrazy 6 minutes ago | parent

I have this amazing new thing I'm making, nothing like it, better than everything else. Here's a prototype that does none of that and is _barely_ functional. Care to invest $2000? If so, do I have a bridge to show you...

ape4 42 minutes ago | parent

This seems to be the language's main page https://vlang.io/

embedding-shape 37 minutes ago | parent

For reference, for the ones who aren't aware of the constant drama that seems to follow V: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... (open up almost any discussion and see the flood of similar messages).

I never paid enough attention to figure out if the drama is justified or not (and don't really care either, please don't try to convince me to care either, don't shoot the messenger).

orsenthil 24 minutes ago | parent

The book about the language was published by packt, and I had my eyebrows raised. I want to give a benefit of doubt tough and learn more.

IshKebab 11 minutes ago | parent

Yeah it seems to be following the No Man's Sky playbook.