83 points cdnsteve 1 hour ago 16 comments

outloudvi 35 minutes ago | parent

Luc 18 minutes ago | parent

mococa 30 minutes ago | parent

That’s explains the 300 million of tokens on the weekend only if you use their tool.

dude250711 29 minutes ago | parent

Is this a step forward compared to previous distillations or a step backwards?

theplumber 28 minutes ago | parent

Ohhh no another one found that agents don’t actually run locally. We already had the “grok uploads all my stuff to Google cloud bucket” news…

next I can’t wait to see news about “ai company is using my data without my consent” as well.

Aldipower 25 minutes ago | parent

That the article cannot distinguish between the git history 'git log' and the git repository, which is meant here, tells a lot.

Claude Fable uploads my git history (git log) every day to the Anthropic servers!

tancop 22 minutes ago | parent

Closed source agents are a red flag no matter if its China or America. Always use an open harness with a good reputation and enough users that someone will notice if they push malicious code like this one here. Right now that's Opencode and Pi.

hypfer 20 minutes ago | parent

I wouldn't list Opencode as "good reputation".

They had their own unbound "harness scans the whole user directory" oopsie and handled concerns about that by introducing code signing.

Which, yes, does have absolutely nothing to do with that issue.

I guess by now it is better, but to me they seem to lack the engineering culture necessary for a "good reputation" stamp.

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Ref: https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/14925#issuecomm...

among other issues.

blfr 18 minutes ago | parent

Why?

edude03 17 minutes ago | parent

Their reputation is “bad” but not because of privacy concerns. I personally think they’re trustworthy

gwerbin 15 minutes ago | parent

How about the one where if you start a session outside of a Git repository, the "worktree root" is set to /. Bug report closed as "not planned".

hypfer 13 minutes ago | parent

FWIW, I don't think that they're being malicious. They instead just seem to have no idea nor do they care.

And the original comment I've replied to proves this strategy right! So from a business standpoint: excellent work.

orf 17 minutes ago | parent

Ironic, given the various people here[1] extolling their trustworthiness because they have a “don’t train on my data” option.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49737922

api 17 minutes ago | parent

Lots of modern software plays it loose with privacy, but this IMO crossing a second line: doing so with zero notification whatsoever, in a massively intrusive way, against data that is almost certainly private and possibly illegal to exfiltrate, with no obvious way to turn it off.

That crosses into outright malware.

Makes me not want to use GLM or other Z.ai models either, since who knows what interesting easter eggs are embedded in their training data.

You know... (puts on foil hat)... I did notice that Z is also the weird Russian logo for their invasion of Ukraine and Russia and China have cooperated to some degree (or at least China is helping Russia in exchange for access to resources). I dismissed this when I first thought of it, but I will now leave it here. Still probably coincidence but my Bayesian priors were just updated in its direction very slightly.

loh 16 minutes ago | parent

I recently began playing around with ZCode. Works pretty well. Super sketchy though if it is in fact silently uploading full git history of every user's projects. This is why we need not only open weight models, but open source harnesses as well. Luckily the project I'm trying ZCode on is already open source (Molecule.dev), and I'm already allowing full telemetry with my other agents/harnesses (e.g., Claude) for this particular project, so it's not a huge deal in my case, but it's obviously a huge deal for anything proprietary.

andy_ppp 11 minutes ago | parent

Quite a clever idea - the LLMs can probably learn a lot from how software develops over time. Claude and Codex are likely to try things like this, more data is like a drug addiction for these companies!