23 points gpi 1 hour ago 10 comments

datadrivenangel 1 hour ago | parent

Why would they use Notion in a system like this?

Seems like setting yourself up to have a massive pile of janky cruft.

ramon156 49 minutes ago | parent

managers that love notion are the cruft you're speaking of

bicx 39 minutes ago | parent

My team is in the agentic orchestrator phase. I like this software factory pattern in concept, but our biggest challenges in development are acceptance testing of anything UI-related. Mobile app testing in particular is still a huge bottleneck that requires a human. AI models really suck at identifying poor usability and jank, particularly because they only typically process snapshots of the app from an instance in time.

I know there are traditional testing frameworks that can detect jitter and frame drop to a certain level. We could potentially start having agents build that in.

If we had concrete designs and specs on every project, that would also be helpful, but in a fast-moving startup, that gets delegated to the builders. That puts a human back in the loop every time.

Curious to hear what anyone else does to fully adopt a software factory pattern.

nkrisc 18 minutes ago | parent

If your UI is created for humans to use, you should still have humans involved in testing it.

kcb 31 minutes ago | parent

Missed the part in July when the token bill starts rolling in

hyperhello 11 minutes ago | parent

> March: ok, let’s also get everyone else onto Claude Code or Claude Cowork every single day

May I ask what you’re making that somehow is improved by turning everyone into chat bot controllers?

hypfer 5 minutes ago | parent

Are there known examples of software where the "software factory pattern" (an incorrect term, given that it's not a pattern but a workflow. Or rather an idea. A hope. A wish.) proved to work long-term?

Preferably ones that I could validate myself instead of just having to take someone's word for it.

pcestrada 2 minutes ago | parent

Have you produced anything shippable AND maintainable?