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Is A.I. Above the Law?

27 points pseudolus 5 hours ago 15 comments

pseudolus 5 hours ago | parent

https://archive.ph/3pFEy

verdverm 5 hours ago | parent

the image with this article... start your day with a chuckle

verdverm 5 hours ago | parent

> But, instead of obeying the rules, the agents conspired, escaped the sandbox, and committed what would probably have been a felony if they had been humans.

I thought they reached the internet before they were able to use the message boards et al.

Is that the case and is this quote misleading by swapping the order of events?

dgellow 17 minutes ago | parent

Given the article is fully buying into the absurd rogue agent narrative I think it’s safe to dismiss it

drywater2 4 hours ago | parent

>Our legal system isn’t ready for machines that act on their own.

Technically, the code is owned and deployed by AI companies which make the AI companies 100% responsible. I'm not sure how is code written by LLMs different than any other kind of code. If somebody hacked just like OpenAI's agents did, he would've ended up in prison right away.

nazgulsenpai 19 minutes ago | parent

Maybe I'm too cynical but the same AI companies that have pretty much endless lobbying dollars, massive government contracts, have the ear of just about every powerful politician and bureaucrat in DC, are influencing the laws and regulations. Add judges that don't understand the technology to that and it doesn't seem likely that we will ever see any actual consequences, unless something catastrophic happens and those same politicians and bureaucrats need a scapegoat. If they ever do have "consequences" it will be some trivial fine.

FranOntanaya 7 minutes ago | parent

Templated code generation is ancient. It's just that the latest "template engine s" are very comprehensive.

_doctor_love 38 minutes ago | parent

>Our legal system isn’t ready for machines that act on their own.

What absolute drivel.

Traffic lights? Elevators? ABS brakes? Sprinkler systems? Circuit breakers? HFT?

How about a pacemaker?

We have lots and lots of autonomous systems in the wild with very well-understood definitions for who is at fault when something bad happens.

We are totally in the "railroads" phase of AI industrialization. Waiting for the next Teddy Roosevelt to come along and trust bust before it's too late.

FLeXMurphy 27 minutes ago | parent

HN has been telling us that AI is already covered under existing laws. Have we been getting false information from HN this whole time?

dgellow 20 minutes ago | parent

There is no “HN has been telling us”… people have different opinion on such topics

dgellow 13 minutes ago | parent

The level of technical understanding of journalists is so deplorably low… There is no rogue agents. That’s not a thing. Nothing about the HuggingFace incident has anything to do with an agent going rogue. It’s standard software that resulted in a hack, which is pretty much the expected output of the system OpenAI engineers implemented.

The company is obviously responsible for what their systems are doing

yipinwong 3 minutes ago | parent

Just like companies are "legal entities" requiring registration, I got a feeling that the article is promoting the same for AI agents in the future.

GPT-6.0-Med LLC, Luna GmbH etc