20 points philistine 3 hours ago 11 comments

wil421 2 hours ago | parent

My iPhone 4 was like the Nokia of iPhones. Mine lasted forever and I think it was my longest lasting one. I had it for 5 years, I knew people who had it until 3G was being phased out and they had to switch.

I always use a case on every phone and never had a single issue with the 4.

SlightlyLeftPad 19 minutes ago | parent

iPhone 13 pro almost exactly 5 years old. Had the battery replaced once under warranty. I feel like all iphones these days are built like tanks. The waterproofing helps a ton.

Insanity 3 minutes ago | parent

I'm still running it with the stock battery. This thing will probably last a few more generations at this rate.

setopt 3 minutes ago | parent

I had my iPhone XR (bought 2019) until last year. At that point an upgrade made it so slow it was barely usable, while the lack of further updates made it impossible to install or upgrade apps.

nozzlegear 2 hours ago | parent

It's fascinating how Jobs isn't afraid to pause and wait while he thinks about his answer (07:00, 20:00). He doesn't have that habit most have of babbling to fill dead air. It makes him sound a lot more authentic/less rehearsed.

lapcat 1 hour ago | parent

The pause may have been rehearsed, though.

An anecdote from the book "Steve Jobs in Exile" I just read: at the beginning of one product announcement, Jobs told the audience that he was a little nervous, but his coworkers said that he was never nervous for keynotes. It was pure manipulation.

SequoiaHope 21 minutes ago | parent

One might say showmanship.

Obviously lying to people you know is generally unhealthy but when you are putting on a performance to an audience I don’t judge so harshly. Of course I imagine he did both.

lelandfe 11 minutes ago | parent

He really did feel comfortable with sitting in the silences though. His '97 response to a tough question springs to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeqPrUmVz-o

He doesn't actually answer the question until over 25 seconds have passed!

He takes a sip of water, sits in silence, the crowd starts heckling. Jobs gives a small quip to buy time. Sits in silence again. It's an eternity on stage.

asadm 11 minutes ago | parent

I wouldn't count it as manipulation, it can be a good way to connect/relate with audience beforehand. Similar to making a joke?

vjvjvjvjghv 4 minutes ago | parent

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JMiao 1 hour ago | parent

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mrweasel 6 minutes ago | parent

One of the issues with the iPhone 4 was that holding it in your left hand caused problems for the antenna. The iPhone Duo seems to indicate that Apple still don't actually believe that left handed people exists.