16 points idbnstra 1 hour ago 25 comments

bigyabai 1 hour ago | parent

I ctrl+f search for "gentrification" and nothing pops up. I close the Substack blog and proceed with my day.

idbnstra 16 minutes ago | parent

why is that?

guywithahat 51 minutes ago | parent

I think the point of the article is correct; the issue with CA is everyone wants to live there, including rich people. If we try and tax them then they'll leave just long enough to not pay state income tax, if we tax property values then the state actually gets the tax and doesn't miss out on job creation or future revenue.

Red states have implemented low income tax with heavy property taxes (think Texas) with great results. and although I'm sure California would just manage to mess it up it's a great idea.

asdff 21 minutes ago | parent

I would not frame Texas as having great results. If anything places should get as little like Texas as they possibly can. I mean they send you to jail for an abortion or a gram of weed. It's living under Shari-yall law.

jostmey 15 minutes ago | parent

The tax system in Texas is a better system. Sure, Texas has lots of problems. That doesn't mean there is nothing to learn from Texas.

I live in Texas. I don't like the restrictive laws. Texas could learn a lot for California, just not in the areas of taxation

asdff 11 minutes ago | parent

The lack of a progressive income tax structure gives texas few levers to ameliorate budget issues without cutting services or raising property taxes. It doesn't help the current governor seems to be pushing city budgets to the brink by also cutting off the property tax lever.

https://www.texastribune.org/2026/08/17/texas-city-budgets-c...

blm126 2 minutes ago | parent

Out of curiosity, why couldn't property taxes be progressive? What stops Texas from having different tax rates based on the value of the property?

It even seems like it avoids a lot the pit falls the uber-wealthy use to avoid most progressive income taxes. Its easy to disguise income as something else. Property, though, is right out in the open. The state can easily audit and value property and send the bill. No matter how fancy the accounting, that bill will eventually reach the person "consuming" that property.

mcmcmc 5 minutes ago | parent

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cucumber3732842 34 minutes ago | parent

>. The land value tax can’t be dodged by leaving nor can it be passed on to renters

ROFL what? I'd bet the author a lot of money that costs WILL roll downhill, the source matters not.

skybrian 24 minutes ago | parent

I think the idea is that if the market demand is such that it allows them to raise rents, they'd already have done it, whether or not expenses justify it.

cucumber3732842 15 minutes ago | parent

If they can't raise rents to cover expenses plus "enough profit to make this PITA worth it" then things (slowly over time) grind to a halt.

idbnstra 14 minutes ago | parent

I'm curious what costs you think will roll downhill and why

omgwtfbyobbq 13 minutes ago | parent

Yeah, that's unlikely. There are certain classes of renters it can't be passed on to during their rental term, but I'm guessing it can and likely would in general.

People can also sell their land/homes and move. It's less liquid than other assets, but less doesn't mean people won't sell/leave.

cuzezzzbbfofai 14 minutes ago | parent

I hope we agree that we need more taxes, it doesn't matter if they are taxes on billionaires, taxes on property, taxes on sales, taxes on crypto, or taxes on the poor. Without taxes we can't have a civilized society.

vondur 10 minutes ago | parent

No thanks, I too much in taxes as it is. California has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

jimt1234 6 minutes ago | parent

pbh101 10 minutes ago | parent

Taxes aren’t 0 right now, nor particularly close for anyone being taxed. Your statement supports taxes as a concept at all, but what’s the specific argument that they must be more than they are today?

nickff 10 minutes ago | parent

The number of different taxes is constantly increasing, obfuscating the total tax burden, and making democratic accountability almost impossible. Additionally, tax collections are already at a historical high, while government deficits world-wide are also at record levels, with services on the decline, and no realistic prospect of balancing budgets. This is true for most western countries.

Given the current situation, I do not agree that "we need more taxes", but would welcome your clarifying exactly what you mean.

aeternum 5 minutes ago | parent

For a long time I agreed with you, but seeing how the tax money is spent I cannot agree any longer. In most cases government is no longer even spending the money itself, instead it is giving the money to NGOs.

I would much rather see people keep more of their dollars and use them to 'vote' for the products and services that benefit them most, via their purchases.

heathrow83829 5 minutes ago | parent

this is the sadest assertion i've ever seen. if sucking the life out of people is the only way people can remain civilized then we are truely lost.

omgwtfbyobbq 2 minutes ago | parent

I think we should start with changing taxes on corporations/companies, specifically being able to indefinitely write off expenses against income regardless of size/etc...

Most companies take profit eventually, but if it's possible for a company to decide to never take profit and grow/acquire perpetually without paying any taxes on gross income, that's a problem.

That'd be like individuals being able to deduct living expenses and having uncapped pre-tax 401k contributions.

Ancalagon 12 minutes ago | parent

Man discovers prop 13. News at 9.

everybodyknows 6 minutes ago | parent

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palmotea 2 minutes ago | parent

> News at 9.

The idiom is "film at 11."

binlog 8 minutes ago | parent

Wealth taxes are a symptom of a broken tax system. If you let someone get to hundreds of billions in net worth and then realize they haven’t been appropriately paying back into the system, it’s already too late. Like the article says they can simply say “no” in a variety of ways, from fighting in court to simply leaving.

palmotea 5 minutes ago | parent

If you let someone get to hundreds of billions in net worth and then realize they haven’t been appropriately paying back into the system, it’s already too late. Like the article says they can simply say “no” in a variety of ways, from fighting in court to simply leaving.

It's only too late if you're timid and wimpy.