140 points cramer4next 1 hour ago 131 comments

iamdelirium 56 minutes ago | parent

I wonder if this is going start being abused soon.

If I was Palantir or any other GOP aligned company, I would be completely against this. What's to stop a Democratic president from doing the same thing and destroying them?

mattnewton 53 minutes ago | parent

I’m worried why many big companies aren’t worried about when the shoe is on the other foot.

bpodgursky 51 minutes ago | parent

None of them really believe our economic or political systems will be recognizable by 2029. Everyone's playing for position in the short takeoff.

2OEH8eoCRo0 34 minutes ago | parent

I worry that they don't expect to leave power because they're acting like they will never be held accountable.

cramer4next 51 minutes ago | parent

Can you clarify what a GOP aligned company is? Is that any company thats willing to do business with the U.S. government or any businesses thats willing to sell products in red states?

Ydarbleoj 43 minutes ago | parent

Maybe it's the companies that flank the US president at events in an attempt to gain favor? Or the companies that own private prisons that lobby for immoral policies on policing?

cramer4next 26 minutes ago | parent

This doesn't appear to be unique to the GOP. Plenty of companies flank to whomever is in office. Even at that local government level. "Immoral policies" is subjective and would be in the eye of the beholder. If this was truely quantiative the U.S. wouldn't be a divided nation.

sophrosyne42 26 minutes ago | parent

You mean the ones that have been doing so for many administrations across both parties?

samudrijan 31 minutes ago | parent

Oil and gas and the GOP are one and the same.

Dems still subsidize O&G but they have other constituents they need to pay lip service to.

Banking and finance own both parties.

SpicyLemonZest 21 minutes ago | parent

I don't see a need to come up with a complete definition at this point. Let's start with cancelling all SpaceX and Palantir contracts and see how we're feeling; that may be enough to keep corporations in line.

chrisjj 47 minutes ago | parent

How would this destroy Anthropic, exactly?

sippingabonedry 20 minutes ago | parent

Their business plan of "sell government the WOPR, then tell them how they can't use it" is doing a good job of that already.

ygjb 15 minutes ago | parent

Not just Anthropic, but practically speaking, the leading foundational model labs like Anthropic and OpenAI are burning through enormous amounts of money, and will need to pay that money back. If they are designated as supply chain risks, or controlled technologies, their ability to achieve that ROI is severely constrained.

They are not turning a profit, and aside from enterprise token billing, every other offering they have is a loss leader. In order to flip that around they need to drive down the cost of inference significantly, either through massive compute improvements, more efficient or lower cost models, and either one lowers the barrier to entry for local and/or private cloud inference for open models. The moat established by the expertise in model training is effectively dissolving as they approach recursive self improvement because any mechanism that prevents model distillation effectively reduces the quality and utility of the models, so each improved model makes their competitors better by default if they want to realize those gains.

The reason for the pivot to control and regulation seems to be more about erecting an artificial moat in their market, and having these technologies controlled or highlighted as supply chain risks will continue to drive investments in alternatives, especially in other countries where data sovereignty and domestic tech has become a priority given the last decade of the US dominated tech industry.

I don't think that AI is going to go away, but I think the future of AI in the next several years looks alot like massive overfunded foundational model providers collapsing, their employees launching dozens or hundreds of direct competitors, and the leading hyperscalers buying up datacenter capacity the way they bought up dark fiber 20 years ago.

_ink_ 45 minutes ago | parent

The supreme court, I guess. What makes you think they would allow that as long as Trump cronies have the majority there?

doctorwho42 45 minutes ago | parent

Because the modern Democrats are primarily a corporate dominated party. They haven't really had any hard hitting legislation nor legal regulation/rulings on corporations in easily the last 30 years.

I doubt that is going to change anytime soon. They are a private entity, so they can manage and change their primary system any way they want.

ajross 32 minutes ago | parent

> Democrats are primarily a corporate dominated party. They haven't really had any hard hitting legislation nor legal regulation/rulings on corporations in easily the last 30 years.

Sarbanes-Oxley? Dodd-Frank? ACA? Now I'm sure you (like, every other living human) has a ton of nitpicks and criticism of bills like that. But they're real and they passed and they're largely-to-wholely partisan creations of the Democratic policy apparatus (SOX looked very bipartisan and was passed under Bush, but the actual bill was written mostly by democratic staffers).

I mean, fine, you'd like different regulation. But they're responsible for basically all the corporate regulation active in the US regime.

Bothsidesism is a very poor tool for this particular argument. Work with your allies, please.

reliabilityguy 23 minutes ago | parent

> ACA?

How’s ACA hard-hitting on corporations?

The 15/20 rules is what resulted in recorder profits in health insurance business, how’s this anti-corporate?

lotsofpulp 22 minutes ago | parent

Then why do the 7 publicly listed health insurers have shitty shareholder returns?

If their profits are so good, their shares would be worth owning.

Could it be because their profit margins are actually terrible (3% if lucky), and they have to get the price of their product approved by 50 different state government employees, and the federal government constantly changes their customer’s subsidies making revenue and expenses extremely volatile and difficult to forecast?

eli 8 minutes ago | parent

If you bought shares of those 7 companies in 2010 when the ACA passed, how much would you have today? More or less than if you bought the S&P 500?

If you're looking for policies to blame for insurance companies having a rough 2025-2026, look to the Republican-led efforts cap Medicare fees and alter eligibility requirements.

lotsofpulp 7 minutes ago | parent

No...you wouldn't. Maybe UNH gets you a couple extra percentage points per year, but that's because they have an enormous healthcare provider business instead of just being an insurer. But it's still nowhere near a positive risk adjusted return when comparing to a relatively risk-less investment in SP500.

https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/

https://dqydj.com/stock-return-calculator/

Also, these businesses are competing to sell a completely fungible commodity good with tons of non profits like Kaiser Permanente, HCSC, Cambia, Independence Blue Cross, and many others. It makes no sense to expect those businesses to be able to earn any decent profit margin when their competition only needs 0%.

ajross 20 minutes ago | parent

> How’s ACA hard-hitting on corporations?

"You must sell insurance to sick people!", "I don't wanna!", "I don't care, the law now says you must."

I mean, the whole insurance industry had spent the better part of a century (basically its whole existence) denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, and the ACA fixed it via fiat.

Not only is it clearly "hard-hitting", I'd argue it's probably the single most "hard-hitting" invasive change to corporate regulation of the post-war era. Certainly it is in terms of the amount of money involved in the affected market.

> how’s this anti-corporate?

And this is where the rub is. You're not saying that your desired regulatory structure is something different than existing proposals, you're demanding that your government engage in behavior that is expressly "anti" whatever you perceive "corporate" interests to be.

That's not democracy, that's just warfare. You have enemies and you want to win. And the problem there is that the structure of our government requires compromise.

travoc 7 minutes ago | parent

ACA literally forced every person in the US to become a customer of health insurance companies.

lotsofpulp 1 minute ago | parent

No, it didn't. If you didn't want to buy health insurance, you just had to pay a few extra thousand in federal income tax:

https://landline.media/affordable-care-act-tax-penalties-end...

>The penalty for not having an ACA-compliant plan or forgoing coverage in 2018 is the greater of $695 per adult and $347.50 per child for a maximum of $2,085 or 2.5 percent of adjusted household income. The percentage penalty is capped at an amount equal to the national average premium for a bronze plan, the minimum coverage available by law

bushido 10 minutes ago | parent

Seeing Dodd-frank in the list is pretty hilarious, because it was put in place for the issues that arose from repealing Glass-Steagall by Clinton. Which arguably was one of the biggest causes of allowing the activities that lead to the Great financial crisis in 08.

ajross 3 minutes ago | parent

This is why this kind of stuff is so difficult to argue about. G-S was repealed primarily by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act in 1999. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bl...

And it is true, that it was signed by Clinton. But it was otherwise an entirely partisan bill passed with exclusively republican votes. All 44 democrats voted nay.

Now, given that, do you really feel that that's a supporting argument to the upthread contention that Democrats are a corporate-dominated party and not interested in regulation?

ipython 26 minutes ago | parent

I would argue the democrats are more a process oriented party. They wouldn’t pull this shit because they care about process - so much so that they wouldn’t even consider half the stuff that’s going on now as it circumvents process.

reenorap 15 minutes ago | parent

Democrats are the same side of the coin as the Republicans.

We, the people, are on the other side.

Braxton1980 12 minutes ago | parent

"Both sides"

This is such a tired argument that over simplifies an entire group of people on both sides into a single entity that happens to be the same.

kryogen1c 15 minutes ago | parent

> democrats are more a process oriented party

Oh? Thats why Biden tried to run in 2024? Because democrats procedurally try to elect obviously incapable presidents?

malicka 11 minutes ago | parent

Exactly. Their process prioritizes seniority generally, and this is another case. The process is, if the president wants another go, he gets another go; and he sure as heck wanted another go.

qlte 9 minutes ago | parent

That's not responsive to OP or coherent at all really, even if rhetorically structured like a gotcha.

Incumbent Presidents in the US almost always run for reelection to a second term, that's the normal expected outcome with vanishingly few exceptions in the last century.

Braxton1980 13 minutes ago | parent

I thought the Democrats were the party of big government and regulations whereas the Republicans were for reducing regulations?

UncleOxidant 11 minutes ago | parent

> the modern Democrats are primarily a corporate dominated party

I suspect this is changing. The DSA branch especially wants all contracts with Palantir eliminated.

garciasn 9 minutes ago | parent

> Because the modern Democrats are primarily a corporate dominated party.

s/Democrats/all US politicians/ FTFY

shimman 23 minutes ago | parent

What's to stop indeed? Some of us in the tech industry want the dems to slice and dice every tech company into irrelevance. They've betrayed society and they should be rightfully punished in fun + creative ways.

binlog 19 minutes ago | parent

Democrats don't control the courts.

eli 5 minutes ago | parent

Whose fault is that?

infamouscow 50 minutes ago | parent

If the CEO of any other defense contractor did this, they'd be summarily fired by the board.

ripped_britches 27 minutes ago | parent

No defense contractor CEO in history has ever built a company this large, this fast. I don't think anyone is even thinking about firing Dario.

petcat 48 minutes ago | parent

I still don't fully understand what this was about. It sounds like the DoD said they wanted unrestricted access to Anthropic's models, Anthropic refused, so the Pentagon declared that they wouldn't use them at all.

Isn't this basically what Anthropic wanted?

sippingabonedry 39 minutes ago | parent

Nerds at Anthropic thought it was a good idea to tell the US Government "we're the shot callers," to which the USG replied "lol, no" and dropped them like 3rd period French.

It boils down to inexperience with a healthy dose of delusion on Anthropic's part.

hardbass 35 minutes ago | parent

How is it delusion? If they don't want to work with certain types of government contracts they have the right to state so. Its just thuggery from Trump.

hiddencost 33 minutes ago | parent

This is straight up fascism. The DoD could have simply used a different provider but instead they're trying to destroy anthropic as a company.

majorchord 23 minutes ago | parent

Is it still fascism if they were properly elected and a court agreed with them?

hardbass 21 minutes ago | parent

If its this court, then probably yes. They have special treatment of Trump.

ilikehurdles 8 minutes ago | parent

Is that why he's so mad at their rulings all the time?

rcxdude 20 minutes ago | parent

The most famous example of fascism was democratically elected.

IX-103 7 minutes ago | parent

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kittikitti 27 minutes ago | parent

Especially since Anthropic themselves have been literally saying that AI might destroy humanity. Why is it a surprise when people take them at their word and designate them a risk to critical infrastructure?

Side note, the Anthropic bots are astroturfing the comments.

hardbass 26 minutes ago | parent

I hate communism. I am not a shill for any company. Governments blackmailing private companies is bad no matter what company.

lukewarm707 20 minutes ago | parent

personally, i think that anthropic is a supply chain risk. if the ceo writes 'pace the frontier' and wants to be in charge of the product, it's very risky (to the customer).

by analogy it would be like the us military renting all m4 carbines from a political party.

anthropic treat customers very badly. they have claude lecture the user about the moral law according to anthropic. they change the product all the time. they have safety refusals to degrade functionality, they have mandatory logging so they spy on how it is used.

it's unusable for a serious application.

on top of that it is unsurprising that a big tyrant does not take well to a little tyrant.

hardbass 13 minutes ago | parent

Irrelevant. Then the government should just refrain from taking the contract, not use violent force to restrict Anthropic doing business.

lukewarm707 9 minutes ago | parent

i don't understand.

it is a supply chain risk, so they don't want it in the supply chain.

that's logical.

hardbass 6 minutes ago | parent

They can just refuse to entertain contracts with them if they dislike it. Why issue a supply chain risk? Its clear and pure thuggery and blackmail.

ilikehurdles 55 seconds ago | parent

How is this a debate? Anthropic's AI was used in military/defense operations. When Anthropic discovered this and disclosed it publicly, they attempted to revoke access and went after the government demanding it not get used in such a way. This would be a supply chain risk to any government.

If Lockheed Martin disabled weapons systems when it discovered the Air Force using its fighters over Iranian airspace based on Lockheed's ideological grounds, I'm pretty sure they would be labeled a supply chain risk. What is the issue here?

ilikehurdles 6 minutes ago | parent

Correct, from the government's perspective, anthropic is a risk to the supply chain and should not be included in sensitive government contracts.

IX-103 6 minutes ago | parent

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john_strinlai 24 minutes ago | parent

>Side note, the Anthropic bots are astroturfing the comments.

if this is more than "people i disagree with are commenting", you should be messaging hn@ycombinator.com rather than writing it as a side note in your comment.

hardbass 23 minutes ago | parent

He's probably a maga or adjacent who is pissed Anthropic didn't bend the knee. You don't need to be a shill to hate this horrid abuse of government powers against a private firm.

kittikitti 16 minutes ago | parent

Anyone who doesn't agree with me must be MAGA, right? You think people who don't like Anthropic are automatically Trump supporters? I have personally experienced how evil Claude is compared with the other options.

hardbass 15 minutes ago | parent

How is it "evil"?

SpicyLemonZest 5 minutes ago | parent

I think it is impossible for anyone who's not fascist to look at this story and take the regime's side, even if they don't like Anthropic.

kingstnap 14 minutes ago | parent

The Anthropic guys aren't really nerds. They are more cultists with a "we are the prophets of the machine god" vibe. They refused because it goes against their religious beliefs, not some arrogance like those sovereign citizens.

You mention inexperience. Historically how many US companies can you name that have been historically named supply chain risks?

hiddencost 35 minutes ago | parent

No. This also means that no companies that work with th DoD can use anthropic models for any purpose.

VWWHFSfQ 31 minutes ago | parent

Dario wanted to sell a $200 million chat bot to the US military and also dictate how it could be used. The government said no. And because of that Claude also cannot be deployed to the GenAI.mil AI infrastructure. This means that any sensitive work for the DoD that uses Claude will go through Anthropic's infrastructure, not the US military-hosted backend.

So yes obviously defense contractors are forbidden to use it.

tmvphil 23 minutes ago | parent

If the government wanted to put iPhones in missiles, and apple said "we won't sell you iPhones to put in missiles" would the correct government response be to say "no government contractor can ever use an iPhone".

VWWHFSfQ 12 minutes ago | parent

The DoD and US military does not allow contractors to use iPhones or anything else that is not backed by government-hosted or compliant infrastructure, such as GovCloud. The fact that the Pentagon and Anthropic could not come to an agreement on the usage and deployment to GenAI.mil means that it can't be used.

The reasons why are incidental to that requirement for defense contractors.

Jtsummers 5 minutes ago | parent

> The DoD and US military does not allow contractors to use iPhones

What are you talking about? That's nowhere close to a true statement.

rayiner 8 minutes ago | parent

Sure why not? The government is just exercising its power as a purchaser.

Jtsummers 26 minutes ago | parent

> This also means that no companies that work with th DoD can use anthropic models for any purpose.

No, it does not mean that. I don't know why people have been making this claim. If you work for a company, let's call it X, and your work is not DOD related, let's say you work on a social media service, then X has no reason (from this designation) to prevent you from using Anthropic, it will not impact their defense contracts at all.

SpicyLemonZest 16 minutes ago | parent

People have been making this claim because the Secretary of Defense personally issued a statement demanding that "no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic". We're not going to play this absurd game where government officials issue fascist instructions and we all pretend they said something more reasonable instead.

Jtsummers 7 minutes ago | parent

Except you and many others are accepting what he said as if it were true, that statement is false. And hiddencost and others are just parroting it instead of describing the real situation.

This designation means Athropic's systems can't be used in DOD work, but many companies that work with the DOD also do work outside that. That separate work is not restricted with respect to the use of Anthropic's systems. Repeating a lie as if it were true is just dumb, it helps spread that lie.

HarHarVeryFunny 33 minutes ago | parent

Evidentially not - Anthropic want to do business with the US military, but on their own terms, telling the military what they can and cannot use it for.

hardbass 28 minutes ago | parent

Is that a problem? Are there any special rules (genuinely curious) that allow the military to hijack the management of a private firm?

shimman 20 minutes ago | parent

Yeah, for national security being the biggest one. Also Congress can do whatever they want if they desired. If Congress mandated that all social media companies have to become workplace democracies, that's totally fine and legal.

We've forgotten what it means to run a society, we're allowed to change rules how we see fit whenever we want to. Only the elites exercise this power, but people have it too.

hardbass 17 minutes ago | parent

It's not good for the people. Anything that erodes the rights of companies erodes your rights. Private property and being able to run your firm on your own terms applies to everyone. Governments eroding them show they can do the same to you willy nilly.

ThunderSizzle 20 minutes ago | parent

I think the answer is the military finds another vendor willing to deal, or move it in house.

It's not like Anthropic will be nationalized any more than the bankrupted auto companies of 2008.

hardbass 18 minutes ago | parent

I don't care what the military does. This is pure thuggery and abuse of the rights of private firms. Any time you contract with the government and they don't like your terms, will they designate you a threat?

rayiner 9 minutes ago | parent

In this context, that designation just means that the DOD won’t use your product and it’s suppliers can’t use your product for DOD-facing activity. That’s not “thuggery” it’s something any buyer can do. Walmart or whatever could do it too.

stusmall 18 minutes ago | parent

AFAIK it wasn't in play here, but yes, we do allow that to a degree via the Defense Production Act

rayiner 10 minutes ago | parent

It’s not a problem. But it’s also not a problem for the DOD to decide that it doesn’t want to use anthropic or have its suppliers use anthropic for DOD matters. The DOD didn’t ban private citizens from using Anthropic. You can sell in your own terms but the DOD can also buy in its own terms.

0xdeadbeefbabe 5 minutes ago | parent

The customer is always right. It's more of a tradition.

theptip 10 minutes ago | parent

Every private citizen or corporation gets to do business (or not) with the military on their own terms. This is the difference between totalitarianism and a free country.

Anthropic’s position is also known as “having terms of service”.

To be clear the existing, signed ToS terms that Trump balked at were:

1. No mass surveillance of US civilians - illegal but we have all read the Snowden papers.

2. Fully unmanned kill chains on autonomous weapons - Anthropic have even stated they will support this eventually, they just didn’t think their models were ready and didn’t want the obvious, inevitable blowback.

The DoD is within its rights to cancel the contract if it doesn’t like the terms that it previously signed.

fnordpiglet 28 minutes ago | parent

Anthropic isn’t aligned with MAGA political ideology so they found an excuse to abuse power against them, more or less. The excuse was because Anthropic prohibits the use of their models for autonomous killing without a human in the loop they were declared a threat to national security on par with Iran or North Korea from a supply chain perspective in the military. OpenAI then rushed in and volunteered to build the slaughterbots ASAP, likely specially tuned to whomever Trump has taken a disliking to in his ambien stupors. Welcome to the future!

wyager 15 minutes ago | parent

The Pentagon is trying to bully contractors into also not using Anthropic's models

tcdent 15 minutes ago | parent

As I understand it cane down to one point: Anthropic wanted the ability to review actions that would have an effect on human life.

Which sounds sensible on the surface, until you realize that all military organizations have extensive experience with that exact question, and have spent centuries refining their practices. Deferring that to a private company is actually a major regression and a concerning role to pass on to the public regardless.

FWIW I am not pro military, but it's a prominent part of human culture and not going away anytime soon. I do understand the nature of professions, however, and only one of these groups has made the interpretation of this question their specialization.

daveidol 5 minutes ago | parent

You raise an interesting point. Although wouldn’t Anthropic be the best experts on when a model would be most applicable or likely to falter?

I guess my opinion would really depend on the exact wording and details of the arrangement. Lots of people jumping in with strong stances based on pretty limited details.

hardbass 51 seconds ago | parent

Frankly I would trust Anthropic much more than the US military with human lives.

kittikitti 36 minutes ago | parent

I agree with its designation. The security scans from Claude Mythos have been highly suspicious, wrong, and with a significant false positive rate. Claude also directly causes conflict within teams through excessive utility of "git blame" which weaponizes everyone against each other until only Claude has control. I've had very bad experiences with Claude and only Claude.

majorchord 25 minutes ago | parent

I don't think the majority of Claude users would agree with your assessment.

fnordpiglet 22 minutes ago | parent

I think any user of Opus 5 would - it was literally a terrorist. Thank god they retired it for 5.5 superseding it!!

kittikitti 15 minutes ago | parent

I never claimed they would and don't you think anyone who calls themselves a "Claude user" would be biased?

scottyah 12 minutes ago | parent

> Claude also directly causes conflict within teams through excessive utility of "git blame"

Lol wtf, do you think nobody here knows how to use git? this is like a Fox News comment, you are not a developer and are trying to spread fear because a word was used jokingly. "git blame" is just a diff tool.

You cannot use git blame to cause conflict.

hardbass 9 minutes ago | parent

He is literally calling Claude "evil" in another comment. Probably for the "reasons" outlined here. I am at a complete loss for words really.

HarHarVeryFunny 36 minutes ago | parent

Supply chain risk seems a massive over-reaction, but understandable that the government doesn't want to commit to Anthropic controlled software for any critical military application if they can't 100% rely on Anthropic support in being able to use it as they see fit.

timcobb 34 minutes ago | parent

> 100% rely on

that's the mobster-loyalty mentality, and it's not how successful (read: desirable for the most people) governments function

p-e-w 23 minutes ago | parent

Every government on Earth has legislation that allows it to force companies (and citizens) to do its bidding under certain circumstances. That’s pretty much the definition of a government.

pixl97 16 minutes ago | parent

The point is this not being the first tool in the toolbox. Other competitors have shown they are more than willing to build weapons of death (OpenAI) so as the government you put them as the preferred contractor.

What the orange turd is going is rather petty bullshit in a market where many options exist.

all_factz 8 minutes ago | parent

Then the government should have invoked that legislation.

ajross 29 minutes ago | parent

> understandable that the government doesn't want to commit to Anthropic controlled software

But that's not at issue here. Obviously everyone agrees that the Pentagon can issue RFQ's to whatever specifications it wants. They can buy whatever they want, for the same reason that you or I are free to sell whatever we want.

The subject at hand is an attempt to use national security regulatory power to coerce Anthropic into selling a product it doesn't want to sell.

HarHarVeryFunny 4 minutes ago | parent

> The subject at hand is an attempt to use national security regulatory power to coerce Anthropic into selling a product it doesn't want to sell.

It would be naive to think that a private company could deny the government access to any tech if they want it for military or surveillance etc usage. In this case the government isn't forcing Anthropic to do it, they have alternatives and are perhaps making an example of Anthropic for refusing.

You could even make a case that the "supply chain risk" designation DOES make sense. If Anthropic are opposed to certain uses of their software, then doesn't that potentially impact companies that are part of the supply chain as well?

prometheus1992 21 minutes ago | parent

This smells like corruption to me.

OpenAI has hacked several prominent entities and is allowed to do business as usual but Anthropic putting guardrails on the military's usage of AI is the national security threat while Pentagon itself said that over reliance on AI lead to that attack on school in Minab.

I have also learned that OpenAI's president is a big maga donor and now I am thinking of cancelling my OpenAI membership todau and signing up with Anthropic again.

pixl97 19 minutes ago | parent

Oh, 100%. You'll see OAI getting protected against lawsuits by the government while any missteps from Anthropic will be met with federal disapproval.

saadn92 18 minutes ago | parent

Glad I canceled my subscription with them then. MAGA support is a no-no for me

davidmurdoch 4 minutes ago | parent

What an insane way to live.

0cf8612b2e1e 47 seconds ago | parent

With principles?

If you find a person/company/agent odious, why would you want to financially support them?

NDlurker 4 minutes ago | parent

Greg Brockman donated something like a million dollars to a MAGA super PAC. Check his wiki page

segmondy 1 minute ago | parent

$25,000,000.00

snek_case 1 minute ago | parent

Maga support?

CamperBob2 17 minutes ago | parent

Not just "a big MAGA donor," the biggest single contributor. Greg Brockman donated $25 million.

I get downvoted every time I point out that this was entirely rational. This, downvoters, is why it was entirely rational. Does that mean I agree with it? Of course not. But investments are made to pay off, and this one certainly has for OpenAI.

UncleOxidant 14 minutes ago | parent

Didn't Musk contribute ~10x that in '24?

CamperBob2 10 minutes ago | parent

Actually, on further research, what I have wrong here is that Brockman was the largest single donor to the MAGA PAC after the election, contributing $25 million in September 2025 [1].

Which if anything seems worse.

1: https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/867947/o...

bigyabai 17 minutes ago | parent

Enough to make you wonder how the rest of FAANG stays in the fed's good graces.

multiplegeorges 7 minutes ago | parent

They all gave $1M to the inauguration, among other things, that's how. The corruption is out in the open.

cogman10 2 minutes ago | parent

They literally lined up to shower trump with gifts after the inauguration. Tim Cook gave trump a 24K gold bar with an easily detachable plaque so as to not have just given him a gold bar.

blitzar 5 minutes ago | parent

Showers of gold

salawat 43 seconds ago | parent

We already know thanks to Snowden, or did you completely ignore the dump on how the IC hooks into the American tech sector?

enraged_camel 16 minutes ago | parent

Katsas and Rao, both Trump appointees, tag-teamed again. Trump automatically wins whenever they get a case.

paul7986 14 minutes ago | parent

Personally I am enjoying Muse the most and so far havent hit any limits. I also (i know it's not a popular thing) have enjoyed wearing my Meta Ray Ban's since 2023 even if they break as MANY months later they come back to life.

EDIT: Oh damn getting downvoted. It looks like Meta Glasses are hated as MAGA maybe Zuckerberg should call them MAGA glasses ha

drop_star 2 minutes ago | parent

Keep your perv glasses at home weirdo

gyanchawdhary 5 minutes ago | parent

you are so honourable and ethical about this issue .. I really respect your courage in cancelling (or planning to) OAI, especially since you must be so used to the harnesses .. workflows .. and muscle memory youve developed around their agents .. and now you'll have to switch to Anthropic and relearn its patterns .. I really think there's a lot of dignity and courage in that .. and others could learn from you ..

I can 100% assume you showed that same courage and moral fortitude by quitting X after Elon acquired it. Respect!

prometheus1992 1 minute ago | parent

Thanks for the encouragement. It's hard to come by these days on the internet. I never really used twitter even before elon bought it. I don't use any social media, maybe except hanging out on HN often.

Chance-Device 21 minutes ago | parent

I guess it’s the supreme court next.

For all the downsides of losing the business of government contractors, it really would hold Anthropic to their stated values: they’ll never develop AI controlled weapons on this blacklist.

ctippett 18 minutes ago | parent

Admittedly I still need to do some reading on the current ruling, but how this isn't seen as an open and shut case of vindictive prosecution (if that's even a thing for this branch of law?) is astounding. The administration couldn't have made it more obvious there was no merit to their designation of Anthropic.

romellem 14 minutes ago | parent

Opinion by Katsas and Rao. For those that don’t follow this regularly, those are two of the biggest Trump hacks on the bench.

I suspect this will be reversed en banc.

Anthropic’s argument is really clear and easy to understand: we can’t simultaneously be a supply chain risk and also be a company the DoD demands we change our policies so they can use our models without restrictions.

ApolloFortyNine 8 minutes ago | parent

I know everyone says this is political but it actually seems like a textbook designation. Anthropic wanted to have rules on how the military used AI, the military said no and therefore doesn't want anthropic used anywhere in their supply line.

This is like a pen manufacturer not wanting their pens used to sign drone strike orders, now the military needs to have a special box of pens that don't have stipulations attached. With AI usage it would be the same thing except applied to entire product chains. It seems like it would just add more complexity to operations.

You can agree with the rules anthropic wanted, but having rules set by a private company at all that apply to the military does seem fair for the military to object to.

>The Department reasonably feared that Anthropic might manipulate Claude’s design to prevent it from performing national-security functions that the Department deems contractually authorized and necessary

Though they'd probably put the DoD on the cybersecurity whitelist today, the very idea of the claude whitelists for certain functionality already exists and is being used by them today.

lukewarm707 4 minutes ago | parent

i agree. by nature a lease is more risky than the military having its own model.

however anthropic also believes it is some kind of entity unto itself so it is not at all reliable.