35 points shenli3514 2 hours ago 9 comments

swingboy 43 minutes ago | parent

Is there a lab more innovative than DeepSeek? Imagine if they had the same compute resources that Anthropic and OpenAI have.

ProphetOfParado 38 minutes ago | parent

Food for thought: Constraints are the source of creativity.

conception 27 minutes ago | parent

Yeah if they had the resources of an OpenAI or anthropic they’d be OpenAI or Anthropic. Scrappy underdogs have to be nimble and innovative.

mirekrusin 5 minutes ago | parent

They are as “underdog” as Linux is to Windows.

rozim 11 minutes ago | parent

Possibly relevant: 突破技术壁垒, "break the technical barricade" -> overcome an obstacle through innovation (in this case, sub SOTA GPUs at least).

Native Chinese speakers to confirm....

michaellee8 4 minutes ago | parent

your translation is correct, I would say Chinese labs may be able to figure out the current capability of latest frontier models in 3-6 months, but then Anthropic and OpenAI may have already been ASI in that time already. China's main problem is still lack of (good) chips, and that is a hardware issue that is unlikely to be solved for a while. and more effort for efficiency means less effort for actual capability improvements. we have already seen what anthropic can do if they focus on efficiency with opus 5.5

impulser_ 29 minutes ago | parent

Short term they might have less compute, but long term they will most definitely have more compute. They don't have to worry about energy, they don't have to worry about people blocking them building data centers the only thing stopping them is there no Chinese manufacturer that can produce a chip as good as Nvidia but I would bet that solved in a year or so.

vblanco 20 minutes ago | parent

380.000 concurrent sandboxes on 160 Epyc based server nodes. Crazy stuff