48 points bookofjoe 59 minutes ago 13 comments
bookofjoe 59 minutes ago | parent
derbOac 51 minutes ago | parent
If Flock wants to be used by public services, it should be subject to maximum transparency. If you don't want your camera locations public, don't offer them to the public for their use.
rglover 33 minutes ago | parent
IMO, when they have to hide, that's the beginning of the end. Too many people are aware of the what/why now. And above all else, once the tables turn on elected officials and they realize they're under the same surveillance, I bet their tune will change (likely due to a public egg-on-face moment involving illegal or suspicious activity). If people keep the pressure on, this will be a "remember when" rather quickly.
FireBeyond 8 minutes ago | parent
Some of that is already happening, in DC of all places, where the DC Police Officer's Union is protesting against use of Flock by ... the DC Police (albeit Internal Affairs).
Something about "this technology is invasive and violates the right to privacy of our members"...
ortusdux 26 minutes ago | parent
Could the map's creator be held liable if Flock can demonstrate this map in particular was used to destroy cameras?
collabs 24 minutes ago | parent
In my uninformed opinion that would be a dangerous precedent if there is no proven collusion or conspiracy to act together. I anal though so I'll wait for people who know the law to respond.
moate 16 minutes ago | parent
Highly unlikely (but hey, anything's possible when you're flirting with an authoritarian regime). They would need to demonstrate that the map was made TO destroy cameras if to have real merit.
JKCalhoun 22 minutes ago | parent
I still want to see a driving game, perhaps using Google maps, where you try to get from point A to point B and not pass any Flock cameras.
AKSF_Ackermann 18 minutes ago | parent
I would like to point out that the website in question has a button to download the entire dataset. Probably would be a good idea to save a copy.
adolph 7 minutes ago | parent
Clickbait. The website proprietor received a 3rd party trademark infringement complaint. If people in the company would prefer the map to be offline, they are taking a very roundabout way of accomplishing it.
On Thursday, Michael was notified that Doppel, which describes itself as an “AI-native social engineering defense platfom,” filed a trademark infringement complaint regarding his site, claiming to be working on Flock’s behalf. Doppel says that the site is using the trademark “FLOCK SAFETY” without authorization, which “may cause customer confusion / harm.” Doppel requested the site be taken down.forshaper 6 minutes ago | parent
Axon and Motorola must be pretty satisfied with all this.