215 points SquareOrbits 1 hour ago 142 comments
ErneX 1 hour ago | parent
zitterbewegung 1 hour ago | parent
tannhaeuser 1 hour ago | parent
bichonnages 1 hour ago | parent
Safari Developer Tools freezes the app.
Even though I’ve disabled the Siri AI tools, they still show up everywhere for some reason.
The main menu bar sometimes gets darker.
Apple Mail keeps formatting my emails in ways I don’t like (bullet lists, etc.).
Apple Mail Smart Mailboxes are broken if you have multiple Macs.
The list goes on…
rafram 33 minutes ago | parent
I had this happen after toggling the menu bar background / Liquid Glass transparency settings a couple times. I think a window (from Firefox) somehow got positioned slightly behind the menu bar, which was causing it to take its color from the window instead of my desktop background when it was on top.
Find the window, then Option + maximize button should fix it.
aaronbrethorst 1 hour ago | parent
Razengan 1 hour ago | parent
Hell, frickin watchOS 27 Siri on my Ultra 3 can't set a timer because "the Clock app isn't installed on this device" ...????
and 2027 was supposed to be a "polishing" release.
When will we start seeing the benefits of all the smart AI coding shit they've supposedly rented from Anthropic? 2030?
delfinom 58 minutes ago | parent
gukov 57 minutes ago | parent
egypturnash 54 minutes ago | parent
I sure ain’t upgrading my Mac any time soon if I can help it.
Razengan 29 minutes ago | parent
mcphage 56 minutes ago | parent
antfarm 1 hour ago | parent
king_crimson 1 hour ago | parent
oefrha 1 hour ago | parent
dilap 50 minutes ago | parent
oefrha 46 minutes ago | parent
amluto 37 minutes ago | parent
dewey 59 minutes ago | parent
monegator 58 minutes ago | parent
arnaudsm 57 minutes ago | parent
phoronixrly 47 minutes ago | parent
Barbing 24 minutes ago | parent
tiahura 57 minutes ago | parent
It’s time for some apple internal honesty about the state of MacOS gui.
rw_panic0_0 57 minutes ago | parent
mcphage 56 minutes ago | parent
getpost 56 minutes ago | parent
amelius 50 minutes ago | parent
They don't just mention one bug here.
Especially worrying is the last bug, which hangs the entire system.
skullone 54 minutes ago | parent
_doctor_love 54 minutes ago | parent
For all that Steve was batshit he was willing to do hard things that were "bad for business." I heard so many legendary stories over the years of Steve Jobs holding up releases at the last minute because they weren't up to par. That takes guts in a corporate environment where there is so much pressure to go along and say "well, we have to ship something." No, you don't have to ship something. You can take your time to do it right and ship things that are high quality.
Apple shouldn't assume that just because they are the incumbent that they will be around forever. Today's Steve Jobs could already be alive and plotting...
JV00 54 minutes ago | parent
dylan604 53 minutes ago | parent
echelon_musk 53 minutes ago | parent
I switched from Linux to macOS but the lack of QA is going to force me back to Linux once security updates stop for Sequoia.
gib444 34 minutes ago | parent
Same. Will sell my Air when security updates stop for Sequoia
nobleach 27 minutes ago | parent
replete 52 minutes ago | parent
hedgehog 35 minutes ago | parent
solarpunk_enthu 52 minutes ago | parent
UqWBcuFx6NV4r 48 minutes ago | parent
hnlmorg 23 minutes ago | parent
Nor does it mean that people shouldn’t welcome improvements even if those improvements don’t bring the overall quality back to that of what it used to be.
But I do also agree with you that we shouldn’t be ignoring the fact that Apple have generally been on a downward spiral in terms of software quality for a number of years.
pier25 21 minutes ago | parent
thoughtpalette 52 minutes ago | parent
sikozu 51 minutes ago | parent
I don't know if I'll ever upgrade to Golden Gate, and this blog post isn't giving me confidence.
millerm 38 minutes ago | parent
Apple 2020 Mini - Sequoia - Music/DAW
Intel 2017 MBP - Sequoia (OCLP) - Software Development
Intel 2014 MBP - Sequoia (OCLP) - Board game tutorials and videos at the gaming table (dining room)
Intel 2012 Mini - High Sierra - Very retro video gaming (doesn't access the net)
Since I can't afford to buy anything anymore, I'm keeping these the way they are for a long time. As each one dies, so does my enjoyment of computing.
WillAdams 26 minutes ago | parent
appleiigs 33 minutes ago | parent
gbil 49 minutes ago | parent
galad87 48 minutes ago | parent
mikeocool 41 minutes ago | parent
nobleach 31 minutes ago | parent
I haven't yet come around. Unix had it figured out back in CDE days. i3 was my happy place... now it's Niri. As long as I can get to my workspace with a key combo THAT I DEFINE, I'm probably okay.
galad87 28 minutes ago | parent
gjstein 40 minutes ago | parent
srik 21 minutes ago | parent
Another instance in watch os is the total removal of access to the app switcher And quick jump to precious app. It’s been driving me nuts.
wilburx3 16 minutes ago | parent
frereubu 14 minutes ago | parent
Edit: Thanks for the tip about killing the dock to get the keyboard shortcuts working. That was driving me mad. Do you have to do that every restart, or will those just work now?
blktiger 10 minutes ago | parent
2OEH8eoCRo0 45 minutes ago | parent
dinkblam 43 minutes ago | parent
sajithdilshan 42 minutes ago | parent
sleepybrett 30 minutes ago | parent
boringg 41 minutes ago | parent
thought_alarm 40 minutes ago | parent
I waited until Aug 31 before updating to MacOS 26, a new record for me. I very much hope 27 will be ready to go by Feb 1.
Synaesthesia 38 minutes ago | parent
andrewl-hn 23 minutes ago | parent
My recent upgrade was from Ventura to Sequoia, and I will likely move to Golden Gate at some point next summer right before Sequoia's support period expires (this happens in July or August). Over years it meant that I avoided some of the famous bugs like the discoveryd fiasco in Yosemite (I went from Maverics to El Capitan).
The one downside is that I sometimes have a to go through a huge app redesigns or big feature changes that have been accumulating over several versions. I ignore most of them and probably don't get as much value from the OS as I could have.
Finnucane 20 minutes ago | parent
Synthetic7346 15 minutes ago | parent
ink-splatters 37 minutes ago | parent
Apple (iCloud) Data Recovery works only if you deleted files from Drive via GUI, which places them in Trash.
So you actually do have them. Whaat? Why would you need a recovery? Good question.
Now it gets really interesting: you’ve emptied the Trash and now wanna to recover some.
But they are no more. Gone. Can’t be recovered anymore.
And there is a reason of course: because fuck you, that’s why.
And it’s documented FYI, so it’s a feature.
Checkmate.
toddmorey 36 minutes ago | parent
Been on Mac since the 90s, now a very happy Linux desktop user.
mahboi 21 minutes ago | parent
kstrauser 36 minutes ago | parent
And they’ve finally fixed some annoying, long-endured audio bugs: https://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2026/09/24/macos-27-fixes-mul...
galad87 29 minutes ago | parent
Even double-clicking in Finder is broken, many times double-clicks are just ignored.
barrowclift 25 minutes ago | parent
mnadkvlb 20 minutes ago | parent
spider-mario 35 minutes ago | parent
Shank 34 minutes ago | parent
I hoped this update would've made my Mac more stable from the last release, and while maybe the performance is better, I feel like issues like this do randomly occur.
armanj 33 minutes ago | parent
mahboi 26 minutes ago | parent
needSomeCoffee 33 minutes ago | parent
Also not a bug, but a bad recession ihmo. I always used to have Finder>Show-Hidden-Files option on. Not it is always off, and one must Cmd+Shift+. to show hidden files each time one opens a directory. Why take that option away ??
If anyone has insights about what might be causing my blank "after search" window, and/or a way to make show hidden files the default please advise. Thx, NSC
daishi55 28 minutes ago | parent
devy 27 minutes ago | parent
drob518 23 minutes ago | parent
ghusto 27 minutes ago | parent
I started writing a list of UX and software bugs in Mac OS, but honestly, I don't have the energy or time, there are so many. Mac OS has become an absolute travesty of an OS.
seemaze 23 minutes ago | parent
It's the worst desktop OS there is.. except for all the others.
gekoxyz 27 minutes ago | parent
flohofwoe 27 minutes ago | parent
It's such an obvious issue that I'm wondering whether I'm the only one experiencing it or whether Apple users just don't use Spotify or whether Spotify simply doesn't test on macOS (and as such I have no idea where even to write a ticket, the macOS Feedback app doesn't even have a category for problems in non-Apple applications).
pier25 19 minutes ago | parent
BruceEel 26 minutes ago | parent
runjake 26 minutes ago | parent
These should have been fixed as of a couple weeks now.
Anyone still seeing Tahoe? If so, please reply with the URL you are visiting.
prodigycorp 25 minutes ago | parent
I feel like the author wanted to write a post like one of those about Tahoe (menu bar, corner dragging), but the stuff they wrote about was all very "who cares"?
Golden Gate has reversed many of Tahoe's regressions and further updates will continue to do so.
> This one just irks me. Show me one oval camera lens anywhere in the world. I'm waiting.
Well, OP, today is the day you learn about anamorphic lensessetnone 11 minutes ago | parent
sure, but also apple has 170K full-time employees
it is a total mess for a company that used to care
yatopifo 25 minutes ago | parent
rafram 24 minutes ago | parent
Of the issues they report:
- The centering bugs seem... not very important.
- The Mac User Guide looks fine to me. Shows "for macOS 27."
- Network app?
- Why are you looking at the Mission Control app icon at 20x zoom? And in any case, doesn't it seem reasonable to simplify the traffic light design to a flat circle for an icon that will be displayed very small 99.9% of the time?
- Firefox bugs are bugs in Firefox. (I also keep experiencing the stuck menu bug, but again, Firefox bug.)
- "You can find references to NeXTSTEP, the ancestor of macOS, in its UI!" No, that's not what that means.
- "I have a folder open in the Dock. If I click on another folder, shouldn't that then open?" Yes, and it does.
- The rest, sure.
alanbernstein 19 minutes ago | parent
NateEag 4 minutes ago | parent
Search this document for "Historical Note" for the canonical explanation:
https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Co...
rafram 4 minutes ago | parent
NS hasn't had anything to do with NeXTSTEP since, well, NeXTSTEP. The author's wording makes it sound like this is some crazy remnant of forgotten 30-year-old code poking through, but it's really not. It's Swift (most likely) string concatenation being passed a view instance instead of a string by mistake.
lelandfe 18 minutes ago | parent
Anywhere else on macOS, you can't do that. Even better, you can activate them with Enter.
SquareOrbits 6 minutes ago | parent
- Centring _is_ important! How dare you!
- Same for me now. Wasn't when I used it a few days ago.
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Very pedantic, I know. But look at some of the other icons close up, lots contain tiny details very few ever see (try the Mail app, the icon of a text file, or the loupe on the old Preview icon). That obsessive attention to detail feels like it's now in the past.
- Yeah could well be Firefox's fault. But it surfaced in Golden Gate, so I included it.
- You can trace anything NS* back to NeXTSTEP
- Not for me!
- :)
mococa 23 minutes ago | parent
paxiongmap 22 minutes ago | parent
mmsc 22 minutes ago | parent
Did they fix the bug where the toolbar of applications would either get stuck open or disappear while in full screen mode, requiring them to be moved to the desktop before returned to fullscreen?
formvoltron 20 minutes ago | parent
macoslulz 19 minutes ago | parent
They've completely broken every experience around minimized windows:
- App Expose doesn't show minimized windows at all
- Cmd-` iterating doesn't iterate through minimized windows.
- I've had times where Cmd-`-ing to another Terminal yanked it from it's workspace onto my current one.
- It will just stop rendering the Mission Control thumbnails. 90% of the time it just shows empty workspaces
- It seems to be doing some stupid optimization where it blanks out my Firefox window until the workspace switch animation has fully finished. Likely it's part of how they finally removed the janky animations from the past 3 releases. But, COME ON Wayland can run on my 5 year old x86_64-linux laptop with perfect animations with none of this jank and compromise.
- It regularly doesn't change focus from Firefox (on my second workspace) to Firefox Nightly (on my first workspace), when swiping. Or even swiping and clicking. Only if you swipe, move the cursor and then click does focus shift to the open, top app on the workspace.
It's hot f****king garbage. Maybe this is my foot peddle but it breaks every basic way I do window management and use the OS.
Breaking minimized windows. Only Apple could manage that.
diegof79 19 minutes ago | parent
Just one small thing to add about the Color Picker: I think it's a good example of how native UI apps have changed over the last decade.
The macOS Color Picker is nice. The idea is to have a single color picker for the whole system. It's extensible, so apps can add their own custom pickers (for example, an OKLCH picker), and you can reuse your palettes across applications.
Sounds great! But most of the applications where you might care about those features (customization, sharing your color schemes, etc.) don't work with the native Color Picker: Figma, Adobe apps, all Electron-based apps, and so on. So the Color Picker's features are useless. That component of the system is exactly the same as it was when I got my first Mac in 2007.
There are multiple nice native features that apps don't use; over time, they become forgotten and barely maintained.
I don't know what the solution is, but at some point, I think Apple should take frameworks like Tauri or Electron into account and build integrations for developers who use them. I know the integrations exists (they are the native APIs), and it's the developers' responsibility to use them, but that's not happening, and it ends up affecting the UX.
dawnerd 18 minutes ago | parent
New since upgrading:
- In telegram messages get stuck sending and the app has to be force quit - Discord doesn’t pick up audio device changes until the app is restarted - Soundsource has crashed a few times if I change my AirPods out. - Selecting a screenshot area is laggy when dragging the selection box
gregoriol 15 minutes ago | parent
xmlninja 13 minutes ago | parent
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ltbarcly3 12 minutes ago | parent
mlukaszczyk 11 minutes ago | parent
sdcfgy 7 minutes ago | parent
hn_submit 7 minutes ago | parent
This isn't new of course, it's old news. Mac OS X has been buggy since I developed for it more than two decades ago.
phoghed 6 minutes ago | parent
drooopy 5 minutes ago | parent
ziofill 4 minutes ago | parent