128 points marjancek 1 hour ago 28 comments

roenxi 48 minutes ago | parent

> Every generation believes it is living through the end of something.

Many generations are. Last century saw the collapse of the British and Soviet empires - titans by any measure - through mismanagement. Europe as an international power was also broken (compared to how they used to be). I can easily imagine 1900s me fleeing to America in fear of the end times and feeling quite justified in his choices with hindsight. Less obvious where to run to these days as the US not-an-empire looks like it may crumble.

Most of the people who died didn't get an opportunity to complain, so we live with some serious survivorship bias on how bad things got.

Maxion 37 minutes ago | parent

> Less obvious where to run to these days as the US not-an-empire looks like it may crumble.

Depending on what you're running for China is in some senses kinda what the US was back in the day, except there's no land so no easy way for them to accept migrants. These day and age migrants also aren't very accepted anywhere.

GlacierFox 35 minutes ago | parent

There's no land in China?

realharo 27 minutes ago | parent

China is facing many of the same problems that the rest of the world is, with demographic decline, slowing growth, etc.

bsoqk 24 minutes ago | parent

Those problems could be solved with a careful migratory policy (ie what America did back in the day because it was economically impossible for the entire third world to fly there; today, this could be enforced with laws)

weinzierl 19 minutes ago | parent

I agree in a sense, and the writing for this has been on the wall for some time. In my circles, many learned some Mandarin at one point or another.

The difference from the past is that the US has always been a melting pot, while China is pretty much a closed society. If you’d emigrated to the US, you always had a good chance of blending into that diverse society no matter where you came from. Assimilating into the homogeneous Chinese society will take generations.

For me it’ll be either the westernmost end of Europe or one of the better parts of South America, in the hope that they will prosper modestly in the shadows of the upcoming conflicts.

neal_jones 17 minutes ago | parent

I assumed there would be plenty of land in China, is just completely remote or do I just have a completely incorrect perspective on China (generally speaking I’m sure I do, I’ve live my life on the other side of the planet)

harrouet 34 minutes ago | parent

This how empires collapse:

- To maintain fellowship, the empire spreads money to buy influence

- eventually this starts to cost too much, so the empire reduces spending

- wars ensue and independent voices emerge

- unable to establish order, the empire loses its influence and collapses

You can see this patterns as the US is overspending (high debt / trade deficit) while reducing its diplomatic influence on international programs. Not sure how they can save the USD value over time.

PersonalJarvis 28 minutes ago | parent

very cool website

lifestyleguru 25 minutes ago | parent

Criminals and medical doctors are funnelling a fortune into domestic and foreign real estate, and into premium cars. Nearshoring and outsourcing centers are fleeing the country. Polish army expenditures are at the level of Israel and South Korea. The budget is spent on 40 years old retirees while Russian drones and missiles are freely entering and penetrating the airspace. I'd say so long Poland, a failed experiment again. Polish elites don't even have to flee this time, they're already watching from their 10th or 20th real estate in Spain, US, or Italy.

NKosmatos 21 minutes ago | parent

I feel you... the situation is more or less the same for Greece (and many other countries). Things are not looking very good and I don't know how all this situation is going to stabilize or even better come back to normal.

flossly 20 minutes ago | parent

The west wanted a confrontation with Russia (pushed Zelenski out of the Misk accords; keeps supplying weapons for the lost cause Ukraine; Merkel lied about seize-fire intentions; NorthStream was infighting in the coalition pushing Germany further from Russia).

The Israel wanted a confrontation with Iran, and used it's --as we now all know-- pit-bull lapdog USA to do most of it for them. They killed Iran's leader and some of his family: something we long ago decided is "not modern".

Both countries are not giving in. And they should not. These are existential matters for them; they crossed red lines; they are illegal escalations by all rules and conventions. But the west can do what it wants.

Now Europe is caught in the middle. US has fuel, and basically annexed Venezuela. Europe has to pay through the nose for energy.

The narrative has never been more blatantly misconstrued in the corporate media: Russia will not attack Europe, and if genocidal-Israel can have illegal A-bombs while refusing inspections why bother with Iran doing the same?

Fearmongering. All to "save our democracies and freedom". It's getting old really quick. And combined with ridiculous immigration policies they may destroy Europe as we know it in a few decades, I'm afraid. But saying so, results in the immediate "extreme right-wing Putin propagandist" label, and thus can be disregarded.

Germanioum 7 minutes ago | parent

No the west did not want a confrontation with Russia/Putin. Merkel tried to reign in Putin with Gas.

Putin wanted the confrontation and started to attack Ukraine, killing people for no other reason than his ego.

US has expensive fuel and not the right one and also still trades its oil internationally and facing a huge price increase for millions, it also has to pay a lot more money for fertilizers.

The oil of venezuela is the wrong kind of oil and can't just be bought and processed by the USA with a snip of a finger. They have to build/change their refineries for it.

Minsconstrued in the media? Russia will not attack Europe because Putin knows he is gone the moment he starts attacking Nato.

Yeah lets have a PROPER discussion and not some right-wing telegram magic group thinking wanna be intelligence experts. After Ukraine, Moldovoa, Belarus and others would have fallen.

This proxy war is a realltive good outcome especially after what russia was doing the last 15 years: Propaganda manipulation in the west and killing of people with toxins and intervening / playing armsdealer to Africa with conflicts against France.

andai 19 minutes ago | parent

...as seen by one ChatGPT.

ffsm8 17 minutes ago | parent

thankfully, this years winter is expected to be relatively mild

jf 15 minutes ago | parent

This is one of the most cogent summarizations of the status quo that I've seen.

It leads nicely into a conclusion that, even without the preface, seems reasonable: build personal buffers of water, electricity, and cash.

hehimself 13 minutes ago | parent

Phew, thanks God Europe introduced unremovable plastic caps and deposit for plastic bottles. It's gonna save it, right?

lifestyleguru 10 minutes ago | parent

Just after the Covid storm and in the middle of a war at the border we made it. All caps are attached now.

pelagicAustral 9 minutes ago | parent

Don't forget we have a new map projection as well...

dschu 8 minutes ago | parent

This is classic whataboutism. Tethered caps and energy security aren't competing for the same budget or the same people. Nobody delayed a gas pipeline to write a cap regulation. You can think the caps are annoying (they are) and still see that they have nothing to do with a closed strait.

Tade0 9 minutes ago | parent

I feel like this is overdramatized a bit.

For instance: it's mentioned that EU gas storage is at 67% and Germany's at 56%.

What is not mentioned though is that Poland's storage is at 97% because the previous administration, for better or worse, was paranoid enough to invest in a sizeable marine gas terminal and the current one stocked up early.

Regarding real estate: adjusted for inflation prices peaked 2.5 years ago, interest rates are also much lower than back then. Nobody is buying because all the Ukrainian refugees who were moving to Poland are here already and that's the last bump in population this country will see for the foreseeable future.

Also there's the threat of war on Polish soil, which affects investor sentiment.

lifestyleguru 5 minutes ago | parent

Real estate in Poland is the only investment option without capital gains tax, you only have to keep it 5 years. Even if drones start hitting, the prices with keep rising.