45 points signa11 4 days ago 3 comments

s-zeng 1 hour ago | parent

A neat fact about foldr on lists, unlike foldl, is that it actually passes control flow entirely to the accumulating function on each fold step. That means you can use foldr to implement arbitrary traversals of lists, including foldl' or list traversals that exit early. See https://github.com/quchen/articles/blob/master/useful_techni...

kccqzy 23 minutes ago | parent

I noticed that AI likes to overuse foldl' and foldr (especially foldr) including analogous versions on Maps, even when there are simpler and more straightforward ways to achieve the same thing.

When AI writes foldr with a complicated accumulation function, I’d prompt AI to define a custom monoidal structure and then use foldMap. Then the reader doesn’t have to think about the asymmetric accumulation function and instead think about the mapping operation and the associative combine function separately. Factoring out the two jobs of the accumulation function is a great trick to improve readability: excellent tradeoff if the human is mostly reading the code.

mbauman 14 minutes ago | parent

To a CS person, "ordering" is about the arrangement of a list. But pretty much everyone else will think about a *temporal* order of operations. And in that case it is indeed "starting" from the right or left.

It just gets confusing when you're dealing with lots of deferred/lazy operations.