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Supabase is acquiring Turso

91 points cvburgess 1 hour ago 39 comments

jackwsmth 1 hour ago | parent

Always been a fan of Supabase, but didn't expect this. Curious to see what comes of it!

theflyingelvis 56 minutes ago | parent

I use Turso for a small project. Seems to work well. Hope this doesn’t change

vmg12 55 minutes ago | parent

This is great, I was a little worried that the turso project's future was tied to the success of turso the company and it has impacted a few of my technical choices and has resulted in me choosing sqlite over turso a few times.

I'll likely be choosing turso going forward for projects.

aniceperson 9 minutes ago | parent

? are you seriously preferring a vibe coded project over the war tested sqlite?

vmg12 4 minutes ago | parent

1. I've looked at how Turso verifies the correctness of their db and I'm satisfied with it.

2. Turso supports features I want that don't exist and will not exist in sqlite

kilroy123 51 minutes ago | parent

UGH as a turso customer, I do not want this.

glommer 21 minutes ago | parent

Write me a message to my email directly or hit me up on Discord.

We are very excited to be a part of Supabase

buckleyourshoe 51 minutes ago | parent

We use Turso for async in Rust projects. It's performance has been very good. Looking forward to what comes from this

f311a 49 minutes ago | parent

I hope they will put more resources into fixing issues. I remember there were multiple attempts to add it to ClickBench, but each time new bugs were found.

It should not be X times slower than SQLite.

https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickBench/issues/336

https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickBench/pull/1009

menaerus 18 minutes ago | parent

On 22nd of July

> It was loading the data for a week already, and the speed of loading data has dropped to 4 kilobytes per second, and it will take years to load the dataset.

And then on 2nd of August

> It loaded maybe 1% of the data so far.

And then one year after

> I didn't load the data after a year. > I tried it with the fsync removed, but even then it does not work

Ok, I find this more entertaining than I should and almost unbelievable. I know that this codebase was heavily written by LLMs but the execution can't be this bad?

What am I missing and why would Supabase buy the product which can't even load the dataset properly?

ambicapter 8 minutes ago | parent

Also hilarious that the rebuttal comment after a year had passed was "why are you using this release which is a year old"

brainless 47 minutes ago | parent

I do not feel good about this. I really want SQLite (and the Turso re-write of it) to win for tiny apps that people will build more and more with LLMs. Desktop or server. Even serverless.

The core tech is open source so that is good. Will it stay? I guess Turso hosting was not making enough revenue?

pmbauer 33 minutes ago | parent

> Turso will continue operating, with a clear path into the broader Supabase ecosystem as workloads grow.

brainless 12 minutes ago | parent

You mean, it has never happened that an acquiring company said this and then closed the acquired tech?

rvz 31 minutes ago | parent

> The core tech is open source so that is good. Will it stay? I guess Turso hosting was not making enough revenue?

You just answered your own question. Why would anyone pay for Turso if the core of the software is available for free and being licenced permissively under MIT?

_bohm 28 minutes ago | parent

Because they don't want to self-host/manage it. It looks like this is an acquisition, not an acquihire, so it's unclear whether or not Turso was making enough to sustain itself or not. There are plenty of companies out there who release open source software and make money off of hosted/managed offerings of it.

glommer 23 minutes ago | parent

Turso CEO here.

We were doing fine.

This is a strategic acquisition and I fell in love with the vision Supabase had for how they would use Turso going forward.

More to come

ezekg 27 minutes ago | parent

Liability. Compliance. Chain-of-responsibility. Risk. This has always been the case in business, and it will continue to be the case (at least until artificial intelligence actually replaces that need).

brainless 10 minutes ago | parent

Huh? Supabase is also that. Lots of tech is like this. Parent company makes money from hosting, services, enterprise feature seats, etc.

ezekg 28 minutes ago | parent

> I guess Turso hosting was not making enough revenue?

I would guess it's more that the founders want to exit before AI replaces them. (Based on the doom-and-gloom narrative in tech right now...)

glommer 22 minutes ago | parent

lol

brainless 13 minutes ago | parent

I am fully onboard with LLM generated code if that is what you mean. I literally get client work titled "Need Claude led Engineer". SQLite is a great option for the LLM enabled future.

glommer 22 minutes ago | parent

Turso CEO here. We were doing fine.

This is a strategic acquisition and I fell in love with the vision Supabase had for how they would use Turso going forward.

More to come

brainless 15 minutes ago | parent

Thanks but you do understand this makes it hard for folks to select Turso. With all good intentions parent companies kill acquisitions.

Supabase is hosted Postgres with wings. Turso seemed like it would be the same but using SQLite based approach.

So either Supabase now uses the Turso sync + Postgres or something that needs Turso or abandons it. Not sure and I am not asking, just sharing my thoughts.

Love what you folks have been doing.

drewbitt 37 minutes ago | parent

Nooooooooo

rvz 36 minutes ago | parent

Open source never pays the bills, nor do users here ever pay for open source.

glommer 22 minutes ago | parent

our cloud pays the bill just fine though.

lpgauth 28 minutes ago | parent

Congrats Glauber!

glommer 23 minutes ago | parent

thank you!

popalchemist 16 minutes ago | parent

I feel like this makes a lot of sense and is a rare win-win-win (supabase-turso-customers being the parties).

FLeXMurphy 15 minutes ago | parent

it's glommer

arnath 13 minutes ago | parent

Why would you rewrite something that’s widely considered one of the best written and tested pieces of software in the world?

levkk 10 minutes ago | parent

That's how you push the field forward. Good isn't good enough.

loufe 6 minutes ago | parent

Best tested..? The test data/suite is private. That alone is quite odd.

dd8601fn 5 minutes ago | parent

The Rust rewrite? I had the same question.

It’s fast, with unparalleled stability, arguably better managed than any other software on earth, deployed on literally everything, so let’s… fork it for street cred?

mhalikosen 4 minutes ago | parent

Hayırlı olsun

integrallis 4 minutes ago | parent

Supabase is a great product, we use it for all of our products, but we also need OSS solutions that can be self-hosted. For Supabase, I hope the platform improves. SQLite has become the standard, we need that standard (other than the SQL93 part) to be created and maintained so that other can drop a paid for product and handle the server-side themselves is the choose to.

mhalikosen 4 minutes ago | parent

I didn't know the company, but it turns out they have a great mindset.