25 points weaksauce 11 hours ago 10 comments

jwrallie 6 hours ago | parent

Persistence is something I care about, Tmux allow that between different sessions, local or otherwise, Windows Remote Desktop also makes it simple to continue work remotely. What bothers me is that the OS will eventually need to reboot, and the user is expected to reconfigure the sessions afterwards, at least partially.

I think a modern computer should be able to update its software, kernel included, in a way that the state of the userland could be kept, even with an actual reboot.

noman-land 1 hour ago | parent

Check out tmux-continuum and tmux-resurrect plugins.

rockbruno 7 minutes ago | parent

TIL about tmux plugins. I started using tmux more actively recently and these will solve all my problems!

erelong 3 hours ago | parent

Vertical tabs is a feature in some modern browsers (all?), toggled in settings

Virtual desktops might help some people where you just ctrl+alt+left/right to move to them, instead of multiple monitors (where applicable). Or just fullscreen apps and I think it's like ctrl+tab to switch between a bunch of them

The only way to keep all the files on the filesystem is probably to avoid the silos

I guess we could ironically / unironically ask AI for some OS design tips for our setups haha

OtomotO 31 minutes ago | parent

Actually for me it's different.

I've been using Tmux and later Zellij for many years, while I was on Ubuntu's Unity, then Gnome, KDE, i3 and lastly sway.

Until I switched to niri (https://github.com/niri-wm/niri) ... since then I haven't used tmux at all.

Very weird, come to think of.

ggm 13 minutes ago | parent

how can this not refer to emacs?

emacs -> screen -> tmux -> tmux integrated into <terminal app>

appears to be the path.

I guess the fork was "emacs before X" to "emacs after X but we retrofiited some ideas from X into the terminal" -> <the rest is history>

ssivark 12 minutes ago | parent

Interesting and expansive post about what the modern desktop experience should be like, and most of it has nothing to do with Tmux except if you squint in some very particular way.

serbuvlad 10 minutes ago | parent

> The best two examples of this are the Arc browser and Chrome OS. But I think Arc is actually the more interesting of the two experiments. Their first innovation was to break the idea of tabs at the top and instead move it to be a sidebar model.

I will forever hate Arc for popularizing vertical tabs the way they did.

Vertical tabs were a thing since at least the Tree Style Tabs extension (2007), except the Tree Style Tabs were infinitely cooler, because they were a tree, not a list, and right click->open in new tab, would open the new tab as a child of the current tab.

So you could have a hacker news tab during your break, start opening a bunch of articles, read through them, simply un-expand the HN sub-tree, go to work, and then re-expand it during your next break.

Because of Arc, everyone is now implementing vertical tabs, but no one is implementing Tree Style Tabs, and, probably no one ever will again.

lemontheme 6 minutes ago | parent

Fwiw – Orion (webkit) has tree tabs

scottg489 2 minutes ago | parent

Check out Tabius if you use Chrome. It automatically creates and opens new tabs in a group as you describe in your second to last paragraph.