27 points notfirstpost 40 minutes ago 9 comments

post_break 20 minutes ago | parent

One update away to revoking Full Disk Access in the future. This commercial has come full circle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuqZ8AqmLPY

lapcat 17 minutes ago | parent

My understanding is that Meta Muse simply opens the System Settings Full Disk Access pane, and the user has to enable it themselves using System Settings, which says, "Allow the applications below to access data like Mail, Messages, Safari..." and which requires an administrator password to change.

Thus, I'm not sure what more Apple can do here, but I'm definitely afraid of what they're going to do.

jameskraus 12 minutes ago | parent

Oh no, even more permission prompts on macOS. It's already almost unusable due to the existing ones.

big_toast 11 minutes ago | parent

"Full Disk Access largely sidesteps these controls in order to allow backup apps to function properly on the Mac"

Huh? Seems like a disingenuous statement. I hope they update that sentence with something more accurate.

However, I've wanted much more granularity and pervasive permissions so I'm glad they're adding them.

lapcat 4 minutes ago | parent

> Huh? Seems like a disingenuous statement. I hope they update that sentence with something more accurate.

Yes, the classic use of FDA is for Terminal app. I don't think backup apps even need FDA, because they use Apple's ASR tool that already has special permissions.

> However, I've wanted much more granularity and pervasive permissions so I'm glad they're adding them.

Apple didn't say they're doing that.

rwz 8 minutes ago | parent

When I give something a "Full Disk Access" permission, I expect it to have full access to what's on my disk, including "files, mail, messages, and even (gasp) browsing history"! Who are those mysterious people who expect their browsing history to be magically excluded from something called Full fucking Disk Access?