30 points Anon84 5 hours ago 11 comments

OgsyedIE 4 hours ago | parent

Ignoring the cognitive stuff which might never be surpassed or maybe will, humans retain many efficiency and durability advancements to limbs and digits that biological evolution has taken millions of years to achieve, achievements that are competitive with the most expensive kinds of robotics in some niches.

In the hypothetical of an entirely malicious and selfish takeover, they'll still keep some humans around to maintain a breeding population of humans for use as raw materials in making cybernetically augmented technical laborers for various kinds of tasks that are uneconomical to automate in other ways, many of which may involve confined spaces.

And this "Combine" scenario, if you get the reference, is only if they take over. Who knows if they will?

dude250711 4 hours ago | parent

I am starting to think this LeCun dude knows what he is talking about.

Maybe there is something to those world models.

As good as their products are, I suspect some of the internal conversations at Anthropic would be very entertaining to listen to.

throw310822 3 hours ago | parent

Well, I have zero concerns we'll be killed by LeCun's world models.

WheelsAtLarge 2 hours ago | parent

He's right. I'm on the side of Bill Gates. Gates started a whole industry on his insights of the future. He has proven his abilities. AI is and will be a great disruptor. We are losing sight of that and are instead focusing on trying to stop it. Something that won't happen. We are on a path that won't be stopped. As individuals we need to try to prepare for the changes that are coming and stop focusing on human extinction in ten years. New technology and the changes it brings are scary but we have dealt with it for generations. Let's continue.

mellab2 1 hour ago | parent

You say you agree with Bill Gates but your view is completely at odds with his, he is extremely concerned about existential risks … and your view is “stop focusing on it” ?

georgemcbay 18 minutes ago | parent

Yeah, for context:

https://www.gatesnotes.com/work/make-ai-work-for-everyone/re...

Gates' premise is basically that the upside of AI could be fantastic but the downside could be disastrous, if we don't have competent and proactive government intervention.

As an American, the idea that there will be competent government intervention into virtually anything currently or in the foreseeable future just seems laughable at this point.

jackmott42 29 minutes ago | parent

I also have near zero concerns about that, but I worry that we will wipe ourselves out by social and economic chaos caused by AI.

So I'd just ask everyone, don't get too greedy. Its better to be powerful in a world where people can live good lives than lord over a barren wasteland.

dzink 27 minutes ago | parent

A huge chunk of humans are sedated with infinite supply of cortex-disabling short form video and games.

Another huge chunk are too distracted by having to scrape by for a living and work multiple jobs or raise kids and survive financially until exhausted. That second group will keep increasing as the first flows into it.

The rest are aging, disabled, or too young and pegging themselves majorly in the first category until they hit the second.

The people aware enough to hold on to their brain and do something with it in their time available are trying to figure out AI and how to make money with it. The variable rewards of promoting AI are turning into an addiction with some of them, especially if grasping for straws with little inherent insights into the problems prompted.

So if you are able to fly above the AI-generated addictions and have the privilege of time to do it, see what you can do.

hirvi74 27 minutes ago | parent

I'm more worried about my fellow humans than some personified algorithm.

worthless-trash 8 minutes ago | parent

He needs to dream a little bigger darling. Hes not thinking evil enough.