29 points geoffbp 1 hour ago 22 comments

johnea 41 minutes ago | parent

> We want you to build the next Git platform on

the computer under your desk!

Roll your Own, don't depend on billionaire platforms to get your work done...

Razengan 25 minutes ago | parent

There is no computer under my desk

j45 41 minutes ago | parent

There remain fundamental patterns for the future of software development that are missing.

Orchestrating an agent free for all tends to invite more chaos management.

At the same time there’s folks who quietly have this working.

25k seems like a small bounty for such a large prize.

https://www.cloudflare.com/git-competition/?cf_page=next-git...

YarickR2 40 minutes ago | parent

Can we please have it decentralised and without any single entity having control over the lifecycle of a product ? Lessons learnt.

hoppp 7 minutes ago | parent

Git is already decentralised, just stop using platforms and self host

hmokiguess 38 minutes ago | parent

If it’s for agents why don’t you make this a challenge towards them? What sort of human element is desired here?

flamethrower123 34 minutes ago | parent

The element of irony.

camcil 32 minutes ago | parent

$25k to build the next GitHub for $125B company? How generous.

robot_jesus 22 minutes ago | parent

And not even cold hard cash but “Cloudflare credits.”

What an offensive slap in the face.

Rapzid 13 minutes ago | parent

It's SCRIP!!!

Rapzid 19 minutes ago | parent

The whole thing seems a bit uncouth. I get a real gross feeling from it.

embedding-shape 32 minutes ago | parent

> So in this new world where you have hundreds, or even thousands, of agents working on the same codebase at the same time, what does the foundation look like?

So, would it maybe make sense to question this whole bit, before we starting creating platforms for something like that?

Why do you need hundreds of thousands of agents working on the same codebase? In my experience, and what I see around me, quality code that actually works in production isn't produced by "software factory autonomously run by 1337 agents", but instead one human sitting and interacting with maybe 1-3 agents max, back and forth, pair programming rather than letting hundreds of them output million of tokens over hours.

Are others seeing the same thing, or am I in my own little bubble here? All the "software factory with agents" approaches I've spent time looking into, literally produces trash on top of trash, while I see senior developers 10x their productivity while producing better code than before and they have one terminal open with three panes, a text editor, a agent TUI and a general shell, that's it. Is what I'm seeing (and doing myself) not the typical situation out there in the wider world?

harel 28 minutes ago | parent

That's my experience as well

skybrian 23 minutes ago | parent

It would make sense for a monorepo at big tech company, where a single source control system contains many thousands of common libraries and the apps that use them. And now with AI, maybe a small company could build a large, sprawling monorepo?

But I don't think it's actually a good idea. Keeping everything on the same version is difficult. We have package managers that do a better job.

Nashooo 12 minutes ago | parent

Similar experiences here

rickette 28 minutes ago | parent

Us? Ask the agents.

spiderfarmer 25 minutes ago | parent

No thanks. No more US based infrastructure for me.

gste 23 minutes ago | parent

Have to point this out because it annoys me every time:

Cloudflare is perhaps most famously and most significantly an international, global platform. That's kind of the whole point.

Only in the smallprint does it mention you must be a United States or Canada resident to enter.

aleda145 8 minutes ago | parent

Thank you for pointing this out! I always love a good competition and since I already have a workers paid plan it seemed fun. But I'm not eligible, so I guess I'll rebuild github without giving any IP to Cloudflare

btown 23 minutes ago | parent

Sometimes I think back to Google Wave, that beautiful glimmer of real-time collaborative canvases, announced in 2009 when Angular and Backbone hadn't even been invented, and think it launched almost two decades too early.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wave

https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=3850

https://www.usenix.org/legacy/event/lisa09/tech/slides/berli...

We're now in a world where we expect real-time interfaces to be developed and immediately deployed for our feedback by agents, in business-critical settings where classic SDLC timelines are far too slow, but code quality is becoming more difficult to manage at scale.

Git, at its core, is a fundamental notion that behavior is an auditable tree of immutable changes, where any participant can rearrange or rewind or remix this sequence on a local machine to show, and interact with, a provisional combination of those changes.

Google Wave, with its operational transformation (OT) systems, was similar in many regards. We have CRDTs now, and far better techniques for auto-merging workstreams - including agentic systems that can resolve conflicts intelligently!

Wave fundamentally had a concept that people would come together and evolve a simple chat interface, into a customized real-time application for their use cases, and that that iteration could happen in real-time, with data and behavior both evolving in collaboration with bots. Wherever Git and the broader notion of SDLC goes, I hope it brings the best of this thinking.

mrcwinn 16 minutes ago | parent

lol, spec work anyone? For maybe-maybe-not $25k, you build something that could create millions in enterprise value.

Advice for everyone considering this: if you're passionate about ideas in this space and have access to an LLM — build it yourself and start your own company. In fact, message me easting.exe [at] gmail. I'll throw in $25k to get us started. I'm a prior founder with an exit. Because this offer from Cloudflare is ridiculous.