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The logic of gambling undergirds everything coming out of Silicon Valley

15 points ripe 1 hour ago 9 comments

davesque 44 minutes ago | parent

This article's argument in a few sentences:

* Silicon valley gave us DraftKings, Polymarket, and crypto.

* Modern business planning and venture capital firms make "bets" based on the expected value of investments, i.e. probability of success.

* LLMs compute a probability distribution on the next token.

Therefore everything that silicon valley does looks like gambling and shame on them. Sad times seeing stuff like this in the paper of record.

pixelatedindex 36 minutes ago | parent

All gambling is probability-based, but not always the other way around. I think it is important to distinguish gambling as a hobby vs risk taking in a crowded market when running a company in the Valley. The article from what I can tell doesn’t really try to separate this, and that is certainly worth lamenting.

jamesforestwest 26 minutes ago | parent

I agree. Sports betting and a founder’s decision to invest in an unproven market are both technically about probabilities, but the former is a form of entertainment with a likely negative expected value, whereas the latter is a business endeavor with a positive expected value where someone influence the outcome.

brendoelfrendo 3 minutes ago | parent

I have less issue with a founder's decision to invest in an unproven market than I do with a VC or PE fund choosing to dole out money to those founders because those investors are convinced that they can win big if they pick the right horse. You're gambling your time and livelihood that you succeed, sure; hopefully you have a solid business plan. But the people around you are gambling (probably with other people's money) that you make them fabulously wealthy.

boringg 27 minutes ago | parent

I mean it’s true but it’s not newsworthy. Everything has been probability based for ever, just now it is so explicit and everyone talks pseudo stats like. Example p hacking, bayesian.

thesmtsolver2 27 minutes ago | parent

When the geniuses at NYT discover quantum mechanics also uses probability.

“Breaking: The logic of gambling undergirds our reality!!!”

digitaltrees 22 minutes ago | parent

Great. But they are playing Russian roulette with my kids future.

instagib 7 minutes ago | parent

Would have liked to see a mention of poiymarket website which was made for streamers to fake winning on polymarket.

Swapped the l for I (eye) and it’s almost impossible to tell until they evaluated the winnings.