YHK - yet another hacker news clone

Don't they uh pay people for that?

In the wise words of Paulie: "Fuck you. Pay me."

   You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -- Wayne Gretzky
   -- Micheal Scott

I just ordered a couple hundred "stop the slop" stickers to stick onto obviously AI generated posters, ads etc in public, I doubt anthropic is genuinely interested in my opinion

Can't they just use AI to generate those answers? Why do they still need humans for this? Surely AI is advanced enough to not need human input anymore. We have AGI as promised right?

I got the pop-up and had a little read and it's framed as an "Interview", presumably by some AI interviewer they've set up, and I immediately realised they're probably aiming for a two-fer, test out their AI interview thing, and slurp up ideas from users.

I draw the line at paying them for the "service" they're "providing".

"Log in to continue": Misanthropic only wants the voices of cult members. Later, they'll claim that they ran a representative survey.

How about this thought: stop baking humanization into your training set.

Associate your advertising profile across the web with opinions about ai, check.

Gain ammo for regulatory capture from anti-ai sentiment, check.

Market research from pro ai people, check.

A bunch of new signups to fuel user numbers, check.

Advertising for their new survey product, check.

A bunch of new stolen training data, check.

Me participating in this scam? Uncheck.

Here's my answer: Quit incinerating billions of dollars that you'll never be able to make back. You're gonna put us in the Great Depression 2.0.

They can pay me for that, handsomely. I'm not doin their homework for free

I started this thinking it was going to be an actual interesting interview process, but it felt like a typeform page once it get going. Had it been a typeform page I might have completed, but framing it as an interview annoyed me for some reason and I quit after the 4th question.

This just feels like an ad for Anthropic Interviewer.

I answered this last night, though, I wanted to share a lot more with them, but I don't like giving ideas for free. There's so many things these companies can be doing that I keep to myself but I'm mostly convinced a lot of them need to take a step back and rethink LLMs, LLM design, etc because it looks to me like we're all stuck forcing ourselves to use an insane amount of compute, with an insane amount of data, but the small models have shown to be capable of reasonable reasoning on way less resources and data. Heck, the distilled or quantized version of the only open model OpenAI ever released is insanely good.

I don't know all the answers, but I think we're seeing the "ceiling" of where LLMs can go, and we're trying to force them to go further in the hops of achieving AGI somehow, but AGI in my eyes is not going to work with the current design for LLMs unless they're actually building AGI completely differently similar to what I assume it could / should look like, then I'll give them that, but none of them have shown any signs of true AGI. Sure an LLM can be impressive in terms of speed of outright (and correctness now!) but its not AGI. AGI isn't a buzzword you change, it was defined before Sam Altman and Dario tried to redefine and water it down for IPO gout.

AI needs to be open weights at a minimum, but ideally open source. I'm not terribly worried as it is strictly inevitable. But having these companies steal work from humanity and use it to train their models while attempting a hostile takeover of the economy is morally bankrupt. I lose a lot of respect for anyone going to work for these labs.

I don't trust Anthropic management to be "aligned" with their users so I certainly don't trust them to be asking in good faith.

I want it to go away, forever. You're welcome Anthropic, now pay up.

Surprising number of comments in here complaining about a company asking their users for ideas, when that's pretty much the first piece of business advice any startup will get.

Talk to your users!

it doesn't want mine, on a fresh free tier account.

I feel like this survey should be incentivized or compensated. It’s presumptive that people care enough to give feedback.

I’d prefer that Anthropic and the EA cult types have less thoughts about AI.

I find anthropic to be such an unsavoury company. I am not an AI doomer and frankly I don't care much about datacentres and so on, it's just how scammy they come across.

The authors of Claude Code churn out so much BS that gets just eaten up by credulous engineers & engineering leaders. "I posted 250 changes today with claude code!" - author of claude code. What's your point? If we don't care about quality, I can output 50,000 changes in a day.

I see them as 95% sales 5% engineering and it's irritating to have marketers constantly throw gasoline on the AI hype fire & have people still regard them as engineers. The claude models themselves are alright.

I'd like them to take AI-2027 and AI-2040 seriously.

id love to give them my thoughts on anthropic

Here are my thoughts on AI:

- AI is the largest financial fraud since Madoff. Money is printed to run companies at a deficit. Then these companies IPO with an artificially small float to prop up the valuation. Then the fake $2 trillion valuation can be used for the fraudsters to borrow money against the fake stock, which creates even more money without any useful service being provided. The public pays in inflation.

- AI is a bubble where companies hoard unconnected GPUs, which drives up prices of GPUs and RAM: https://www.wheresyoured.at/wherere-all-the-ai-chips/

- AI has turned the Internet into the Slopnet. More and more semi-serious websites look like SEO websites.

- AI has destroyed large parts of programming, where subservient engineers implement Rube Goldberg production pipelines solely to please management. No software or SaaS has gotten better since 2022.

- AI dominates the discussion space, and clear thinking people are forced to fight back against the advertising and the insanity.

Thank you for your load-bearing enquete and I hope the seams are watertight!

This kind of stuff is cute and probably well-meaning when it's coming from an underdog. It's not cute nor well-meaning when it's coming from a $2T company.

I have no doubt that they are already spending tens of millions on precisely understanding the sentiment of users and non-users, in ways that are precisely targeted, in sessions that occur in controlled environments. They're probably also sentiment-mining their chat logs and the internet at large. Whatever the purpose of this study, it's almost certainly not what it says. I suspect one of the following three objectives:

1. Gain more diehard followers by projecting the image of a company that "listens".

2. Ask loaded questions to convince you of their beliefs.

3. Score cheap talking points for regulators, such as that in their online survey, 90% of people love / fear AI.

My thought is: Anthropic should disband.

They are not interested in my thought though. They just want attention.

Stop putting “co authored by” and watermarking code that isnt yours. Youre a tool, and now competitors have better tools that actually do what i want.

I responded. The agent happily "nodded along" as I explained how I haven't yet seen any real great benefits from ai. Sure there are some things but always at the cost of something that i think matters more. I use LLMs daily fwiw.

I'm looking forward to seeing the results.

I must be one of the few who completed the interview. I was hesitant with some questions but still gave direct feedback and asked to make my feedback public. Not sure if they will do it. And just like LLM does the interview did pick up some nuances from my answer and played them back for me to confirm. "Oh so you are saying not only this but that, is that right?

Whether they use it or not, whether they use it to manipulate us or whatever, it is undeniable that AI is the biggest change happening right now, and if there is an opportunity to nudge it, why not.

Edit. And no, I was not asked to login. They likely had the login. I just clicked the survey link from the terminal claude, it opened in a browser and off to the races.

Surveys typically ask people multiple-choice questions, but not what they meant by their answers. This interviewing tool apparently allows freeform input? It might be interesting if a proper survey combined the two, so you could see what people picked and also what they meant by it.

I guarantee that Anthropic doesn't want my thoughts on genAI.

This is, of course, marketing. If Anthropic wanted to be a good sport and learn from users, it could just ask Claude to grep user conversations and support chats for the f-word.

I got the popup and clicked away because I don't have time or tolérance for AI interactions, but a friend of mine has been organizing people with critical opinions to give their takes as a way of putting strong criticisms of AI companies on their own website and reach out to the anthropic workers to try and make them see they are building the panopticon, I'm skeptical that anthropic won't censor everything but would be interesting to see whether that effort will actually move the Overton window a bit