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A third way of using Linux

22 points speckx 2 hours ago 31 comments

GianFabien 1 hour ago | parent

Early Reuters and Bloomberg terminals had a text-centric aesthetic.

AFAIK on a PC, when booted into text-only mode, you are still using a bit-mapped framebuffer. From my experiments you can mix graphics and text.

cowlevel 40 minutes ago | parent

PC is the weird exception in having a character mode at all for compatibility reasons. every other platform does the character mapping in software.

floathub 1 hour ago | parent

Emacs text interface, Emacs GUI interface, and ... sorry what's the third one? :-)

iron-s 1 hour ago | parent

ghostty running ssh w/ emacsclient connected to emacs daemon running ghostel

fellowniusmonk 46 minutes ago | parent

why would one use the madness of adhoc tuis instead of emacs, I'll never know.

cowlevel 41 minutes ago | parent

Emacs in ed mode, but you list them in the opposite order from the article.

drums8787 34 minutes ago | parent

The only one that matters, Emacs in evil mode.

BeetleB 15 minutes ago | parent

Emacs Window management via exwm.

hypfer 1 hour ago | parent

Ah yes, website talks about "the bloat of x11 and Wayland", and doesn't even scroll correctly on Firefox mobile likely due to some JavaScript fuckery.

Practice what you preach. And practice first.

dormo 1 hour ago | parent

Scrolling is pretty bad on Firefox desktop as well. So bad that I didn't want to finish the article.

Why do people do this?

thereisno 1 hour ago | parent

They only tested in Chrome.

prmoustache 43 minutes ago | parent

Weird. I can't reproduce the slowness you guys experience with fennec nor ironfox.

Insanity 41 minutes ago | parent

What do you mean by "pretty bad"? I'm on Zen (Firefox based) and the scrolling seems to work fine. But maybe it's getting resource constrained on some hardware.

orangea 1 hour ago | parent

I don't see any suspicious JS on the page, so I suspect it's a styling issue triggering some inefficiency in Firefox. There are animations and text-shadows.

seba_dos1 1 hour ago | parent

Not JavaScript in this case, just CSS bloat (backdrop-filter).

PhilipRoman 8 minutes ago | parent

another comment on a different HN thread pointed out a similar issue. Now I'm wondering if backdrop-filter can be used correctly at all or should just be avoided entirely

black_knight 45 minutes ago | parent

I guess the site scrolls smoothly in a TUI browser?

metalman 36 minutes ago | parent

which, wierdly enough I am useing, and the site scrolls just fine,my browswr has NO java script, No Dom storage, no images/video displayed though there are a few websites that have some kind of alternate way to display images in short video loops that auto play

edit:videos are mp4's

allanrbo 1 hour ago | parent

Like the days of Norton Commander

SA9G 2 minutes ago | parent

Or Z-19 terminals... green screen, 80 char lines of text. Lightning fast 1200 baud modem!! Those were the days :-)

horsh1 1 hour ago | parent

Well, if we count claude as tui.

BirAdam 1 hour ago | parent

Isn’t that what resolution aware ttys and screen accomplish?

__MatrixMan__ 1 hour ago | parent

I stick to CLI's and TUI's and use zellij as my window manager. This way the configs and muscle memory I develop on my work macbook are transferrable to the linux box I use for personal projects, and visa versa.

It seemed a bit limiting at first, but after adapting to it I feel like it was the right move. GUI's represent a sort of explosion in the set of valid states for software to be in, and I find that software which opts out of trying to support that explosion tends to work better, likely because the maintainer just has less to worry about.

snapplebobapple 24 minutes ago | parent

Try herdr. I ama tmux then zellij switcher and love it once you minimize the ai crap

wilkystyle 14 minutes ago | parent

Any particular reason to try herdr?

spottedmarley 57 minutes ago | parent

I was hoping the third way would be somehow related to a type of hands-free neuralink so I can code at the speed of thought with my eyes closed laying in bed. Someday the tech will exist but, by then I'm not sure coding will be a thing to do anymore. I'll probably still do it anyway though.

skybrian 47 minutes ago | parent

Other ways I often use:

- Using a web browser to connect to a web app running in a Linux VM. I write all my custom tools that way.

- Using VS Code to connect remotely, using ssh

cowlevel 42 minutes ago | parent

> What gives you the benefit of a visual interface, without the bloat that comes with Wayland or X11?

fbdev?

neomantra 25 minutes ago | parent

I'm exploring aspects of these "other ways". I've been pushing Kitty terminal graphics compositing and then layering libraries over that. I've also been working on remoting Golang programs over the network as well as compiling them to WASM and embedding that in browsers. This WebGPU browser shader is an example of that mashed together [1]. Same code for native and browser.

Shout out to TUIOS [2] that is in the article; author has a lot of neat libraries and his `sip` protocol is the basis of that remoting work.

[1] https://nimblemarkets.github.io/ntcharts/demos/shaders/

[2] https://github.com/Gaurav-Gosain/tuios

BeetleB 21 minutes ago | parent

The article has it backwards: GUIs are the third way of using Linux. TUIs are the 2nd way. I mean, stuff like pico, nano, vi, Emacs - these are all TUIs.

Perhaps it's because I grew up on DOS that I think that way, but one of the reasons I switched from Windows to Linux decades ago was to use TUIs.