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Photopea creator weighs in on Photosuite project

67 points montag 3 hours ago 31 comments

hex4def6 1 hour ago | parent

I mean, it seems a pretty open-and-shut case. The author literally admits he copied the code. From one of the comments he makes:

> @kuckir, to be clear about the lineage: PhotoSuite started from the Photopea build mirrored at https://github.com/ruanjiyang/Photopea-Offline, and the README credits Photopea as the primary inspiration and prior art. Over the past year it's been rewritten and rearchitected module by module, retargeted for desktop, restructured into ~330 source files, with a lot of features Photopea doesn't have. It's a rewrite of that lineage.

That Photopea-Offline is an unofficial rip of the actual app. Pretty sure using a pirated version doesn't suddenly grant you license rights to use & extend the code into another competing product...

superdisk 1 hour ago | parent

And the comment where he's "explaining" the code is clearly LLM written. Very nice.

x0x0 1 hour ago | parent

Also, he started by lying. He/she went from

> That's a bold accusation. Would you care proving which bits of the code are "stolen"?

https://github.com/eolix/photosuite/issues/77#issuecomment-5...

to banning photopea, to when photopea responds with a 2nd account re: some duplicate code which is very hard to explain w/o being, well, duplicated to what you pasted above.

eolix1 1 hour ago | parent

I banned the user photopea because they started spamming issues instead of following the thread

bananaboy 56 minutes ago | parent

They posted one new issue with proof that you copied their code, which you deleted and closed. I’d hardly call that spamming.

copperx 52 minutes ago | parent

I find that very hard to believe.

bananaboy 53 minutes ago | parent

Absolutely. There’s a lot of this going around on twitter too with all the game reverse engineering with all the AI grifters claiming games are all open source now etc. Yeah right, I don’t think they understand the concept of open source or copyright!

sammularczyk 23 minutes ago | parent

Such a basic mistake treating any repo as free use. That one’s clearly a rip of copyrighted code.

gbin 12 minutes ago | parent

I was about to say this. Even if the offline version was an authorized thing, there was no license attached to the project, meaning full copyright.

cautiouscat 1 hour ago | parent

I wonder if the issue is being responded to by an agent. A lot of the responses sound like stuff Claude writes.

eolix1 1 hour ago | parent

Nah, I'm real

kayson 57 minutes ago | parent

That doesn't preclude their point from being true.

mapontosevenths 3 minutes ago | parent

Why not just apologize and have Claude rewrite any code that's similar? Whether you did it intentionally or not, you probably agree that you can't keep using his code and that it would pretty bad if someone did something similar to you.

kayson 57 minutes ago | parent

It definitely sounds like Claude.

xpct 1 hour ago | parent

I find it hardest to sympathize with the guy who inserted himself with 'Adapt or Die'..

efilife 4 minutes ago | parent

> Eolix has OPENLY cited he used Photopea for inspiration and what parts he used, he's acted with honesty.

He's the definition od the word "bootlicker".

"But he admitted to killing him, he's innocent!"

slopinthebag 1 hour ago | parent

seeing what has been happening in the game modding communitiy, with people reverse engineering full rust rewrites of games like modern warfare 2 [1][2], or reverse engineering mashups with cod, minecraft, and skate 3 [3][4][5], the only defence against reverse-engineering literally all software will be to serve it from the cloud, and even that will not be enough. these people aren't even programmers, claude code just downloads ghidra and builds this stuff.

the future of software is oss. unless governments lock down access to these tools to prevent this kind of reverse engineering. which is a horrible future to envision.

[1] https://github.com/vladtrc/iw4L

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UbADrcEW5w

[3] https://github.com/chasmlol/2010-rust-rewrite-mashup

[4] https://www.reddit.com/r/bevy/comments/1wuu7bx/are_you_seein...

[5] https://www.reddit.com/r/bevy/comments/1wuag9d/skate_3_was_r...

superdisk 1 hour ago | parent

I saw someone say that we're going to go back to a situation like the 70s where software is technically copyrightable but there's no reason to bother. Maybe Stallman's dream will finally come true.

slopinthebag 1 hour ago | parent

that would be the absolute dream imo. true ownership of the code running on your system.

xpct 1 hour ago | parent

I think GTA6 will be the real test for how capable these agents are. Some of these mods use well-known emulation methods, and some of these binaries have probably been ingested by the LLM numerous times.

I don't mean to discredit LLM capabilities, it's just that these examples are heavily favored by what's already documented online.

slopinthebag 1 hour ago | parent

yeah for sure, and more modern games will probably be more difficult as well. but even so, games feel like one of the harder things to reverse engineer compared to most business software. yes there is the backend component, but that's mostly just crud.

OsrsNeedsf2P 47 minutes ago | parent

I'm currently working on OpenBFME[0] and I can assure you, enough LLM power guessing at the code in the binaries is enough to get the code for anything

[0] https://github.com/Open-BFME/

Scaevolus 44 minutes ago | parent

Wine-style PS5 emulation has advanced far enough that I would bet money on there being a pirated GTA6 PC release based on the PS5 version available within six months.

lenny3 1 hour ago | parent

I just find it surprising that the author is complaining about "stolen code" while having been piggybacking (and earning money) from unattributed OSS code for years... https://github.com/photopea/photopea/issues/9042

lukan 34 minutes ago | parent

Since that audit is just some hours old and clearly completely AI written - may I ask if you have looked into it yourself to make such claims?

Or rather created it and eolix is your other alias?

gbin 9 minutes ago | parent

From 5h ago, and suddenly you found that immediately, this is very juvenile.

ProjectBarks 6 minutes ago | parent

Half of these are extremely permissive license attribution issues. Seems rather tame, no?

I question the seriousness of the author of "Photosuite". Who goes through the trouble of creating accounts to prove poorly, that they "didn't steal code".

agar 1 hour ago | parent

If your answer to "here is an example of 1:1 copying of my code and I can do the same for every line in your app" (Github comment 7, from the Photopea author) is to copy/paste a justification from an LLM (comment 8, from the Photosuite author), you've lost the argument.

The hard reality though is any site written in JavaScript is now part of an LLM's training set and can (and will be) be trivially rewritten into something new. Interesting times.

>“He who hath grown wise concerning old origins, lo, he will at last seek after the fountains of the future and new origins. […] For the earthquake—it choketh up many wells, it causeth much languishing: but it bringeth also to light inner powers and secrets. The earthquake discloseth new fountains.”

— Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra

kibibu 44 minutes ago | parent

> those defaults have earned their place here even though the format doesn't require them

> the reader emits the model's shape rather than the file's

Oh hello Claude

JeremyHerrman 14 minutes ago | parent

I had the same exact thought from the paragraph above that when reading:

> the writer derives its field count from Object.keys().length while skipping the sentinel

spl757 17 minutes ago | parent

All I know for sure is that the author of Photopea is not AI and I remember when he first released it. No one was calling it a photoshop ripoff. People were calling it an actual open source alternative that functioned and didn't cost the heap of cash Adobe wanted. I recall the response to the announcement being quite positive.