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throwaway7783 2 hours ago | parent

Is this OpenAI catching up with Anthropic artifacts? At the same time they say "We’ve trained GPT‑6 to compose responses using text, visuals and interactive elements...", rather than a harness.

solarkraft 2 hours ago | parent

AFAIK, they already had a simpler form of this. It was kind of an obvious next step. Now connect it up to tools so that we can again comfortably do the things that are more precise by hand! The “pick a color” or “select the width on a slider” use case is coming closer.

Tiberium 2 hours ago | parent

I find it extremely strange that they're adding GPT-6 Sol to Chat over GPT-6.1 Sol which is significantly more capable.

wincy 2 hours ago | parent

I’ve hit model not available limits for GPT 6.1 Sol multiple times over the last week. It’s never for very long, and I can switch to Astra, but it seems like OpenAI is struggling with capacity. This has happened with my personal $200 Pro connection and my Codex enterprise connection.

xpct 2 hours ago | parent

I really don't like having to open Work sessions for one-off questions, only because they're limiting what models they put in the chat. The older models are just too dumb for some things.

zamadatix 1 hour ago | parent

The whole Work/Chat/Codex split is maddening in the way it's implemented. It's a pain to switch back to the right project, it's a pain to switch forward, it's a pain to try to remember which chat was in what.

exitb 1 hour ago | parent

Given the extreme short time between 6 Sol and 6.1 Sol, I suspect they don’t actually have much in common and 6.1 is a heavier model rebranded as Sol in a panic response to poor agentic capabilities of 6.

ismael_rr 1 hour ago | parent

I suspect that 6 sol was a better version of 5.6 terra (and note that in the 6 sol and luna release, they took out terra, and price 6 sol at 5.6 terra pricing), then the backlash from lesser capabilities made them roll out 6.1 sol as the actual 5.6 sol - size modee.

MikhailTal 1 hour ago | parent

6.1 is Astra minor. Way more capable but also way heavier+slower. Its really 2 different models, they just shipped it as sol to recover from the gpt6 disaster lunch, where they tried to pass terra 6(or a cheaper model) as sol but it was worse than expected

sscaryterry 1 hour ago | parent

Anecdotally this is what I experienced, do you have sources for this?

spijdar 1 hour ago | parent

It's purely circumstantial, but 6 Sol supports no reasoning (same as 6 Luna and 5.6 Sol/Luna), while both Astra and 6.1 Sol do not support "reasoning = none".

fang2hou 2 hours ago | parent

I'm also building something similar for an internal project, based on the vercel's json-render design. It hasn't been too challenging, especially since the release of faster models like 5.6 Luna.

tamimio 2 hours ago | parent

This looks bad, I want the output to be as much as text based so I can easily export it and further processing it, plus, this might make the resource-eating app even worse.

ardaakman 1 hour ago | parent

Visuals are better for consumers/general public, when the use case is "help me cook X meal", or "where can I stop by to buy gas on the way to San Jose".

sshussain270 53 minutes ago | parent

Rading most comments, people don't seem to be very impressed by it, I ain't either tbh - its not something mind-blowing (I have been doing this with Astra myself just by writing better prompts to make explainer interactive interfaces), but I do think its a good first step towards a better way of consuming information/answers than just reading text-vomits. I wonder if there is a way to train an LLM native to this kind of thing?

oh_no 1 hour ago | parent

then just ask for text-only?

haute_cuisine 2 hours ago | parent

In the video, they showed examples of ChatGPT making interactive tutorials on how to fold origami, how to arrange colours/interior and how to assemble a bike.

Supposedly, people were struggling to follow written manuals and they needed an interactive explanations.

I'm not a mathematician and I would certainly love having a tool that would do ELI5 on some complex stuff, but I'm really worrying about using this too often and outsourcing my ability to do stuff to some mega corp.

wincy 2 hours ago | parent

It makes sense they’re doing this - I’ve noticed lately when asking a more complex question involving a lot of nonlinear data using Codex work mode, Astra and Sol will write a fully html document to better display the info with a Cliff’s Notes version in chat.

simianwords 2 hours ago | parent

I made a prediction last year that there'd be a new UI protocol (like HTML) but for agents. I believe that custom or personalised UI's are going to be the new browser interface. More radically, I think browsers can be completely replaced. My news feed can be personalised to me, based on what AI thinks might be important from all sources like Reddit, X, HN.

altcognito 1 hour ago | parent

Sounds horrible, but plausible.

Now they extracted the value from interoperable open systems, they would love to replace it with closed proprietary systems.

pmontra 1 hour ago | parent

Which brings up a different problem: personalized reading UI, personalized writing UI, how are those services going to pay their bills? Maybe they can sell access to their APIs but who's really going to buy that? Those services will die and will be replaced by some other service that will be born to serve those people.

Or, more probably IMHO, most people will keep using the standard UIs because they are ready and they need no work to build.

watwut 1 hour ago | parent

Cant wait for the next round of outrage and radicization machines, this time by browser replacement and unavoidable.

gtt44 1 hour ago | parent

Why are you posts generally down voted?

dominotw 1 hour ago | parent

> I made a prediction last year

yes you and everyone else.

goatlover 59 minutes ago | parent

So they are going to replace all the banking, utility, social media, news, gaming, streaming, government, work apps and other important websites people still rely on? Those companies and organizations are just going to provide an API to the chatbots?

How do sites like Wikipedia get updated? What if I need to upload important documents to different portals? It all has to go through the AI companies? They have access to medical records too? My taxes, social security, etc?

Is this how Microsoft imagines Office 365 and Sharepoint will be merged into? Disney, NY Times, Youtube, Netflix will all be fine with chatbots handling their content?

abroszka33 2 hours ago | parent

The intro video is just lame. Those things never happen in real life.

bogdiyan 2 hours ago | parent

So you never have to assemble a bike or paint a room. How those are not real world examples? I find their video pretty cool. For people with ADHD or people learning by watching or children this is spot on.

mogrinz 1 hour ago | parent

They made fake, terrible artifacts (colorless paint chips, text-only city guides and instruction manuals) to show how terrible that is, and then "fixed" them. The problem is, in reality their examples don't exist. Paint chips have color samples. City guides have maps, pictures, and color. Instruction manuals almost always have illustrations. If what you made is better than what exists, you should compare it to what exists and not some alternate reality.

twoodfin 1 hour ago | parent

They're making the point—apparently too subtly—that text alone is a highly limiting "UI" for many tasks. So it's great that GPT-6 can now communicate in a a richer interactive medium.

abroszka33 59 minutes ago | parent

Then show a real task where text is limiting. Don't make up stupid examples.

hollowturtle 2 hours ago | parent

> The compiler allows the interface to appear progressively as the model generates it, without waiting for the entire response to be complete.

why not just stream html?

Aarostotle 2 hours ago | parent

The element can’t render until it’s closed, presumably.

hollowturtle 2 hours ago | parent

Html partial streaming is a real thing, presumably

Aarostotle 13 minutes ago | parent

maybe I'm just wrong here? If the tokens <b>come through this text could still be optimistically turned bold until </b> happens.

For elements that manage layout and drawing things like these explainers, though, it's hard for me to imagine how that would work. My immediate thought would be to an abstraction over it, which is what it sounds like they did.

BeetleB 2 hours ago | parent

So I guess it's going to nail the bicycle the Pelican rides on, right?

fsniper 2 hours ago | parent

Is it me or GPT-6 Instant food answer gives the vibe to check the hell out immediately? It's like the it will start to explain a sunny Sunday afternoon from 20 years ago for 5 full pages.

topsykreet 2 hours ago | parent

Written manuals/guides come with pictures. The ad is dishonest.

password54321 2 hours ago | parent

Plot twist: The guides were written by ChatGPT. But now you can use ChatGPT to solve problems by ChatGPT.

shwaj 1 hour ago | parent

The point, I think, is to make fun of Anthropic models, which answer only in text when you ask them how to do something. They’re the competition, not paper pamphlets.

password54321 1 hour ago | parent

> which answer only in text

This is false.

shwaj 56 minutes ago | parent

Is it? Sorry, skill issue I guess. I regularly use the Claude app on phone and laptop, and have never seen it produce non-text chat output.

xpct 2 hours ago | parent

I've had the most success with GPT explaining things to me by making it take a few sentences at a time back and forth, instead of reading full write-ups of whatever I asked. It also often poisons the conversation if it misunderstood some part of the question, and I can lead it better by continuously questioning its statements. It's also more engaging that way.

I've been learning music lately and it kept re-pasting the same one chord visualization throughout many conversations, almost randomly and often barely related to the question. So I at least hope this won't be as aggressive so I can prompt it away!

blakeashleyjr 2 hours ago | parent

This seems like a natural progression of models becoming better at frontend coding in general.

"Here is a library of [svelte/react/whatever] components, use them to construct a helpful visual to demonstrate your point."

The deconstructed bike at the beginning was in a class of its own, however.

2sk21 2 hours ago | parent

How would a user know whether a generated visualization to illustrate some process is accurate or not?

hollowturtle 2 hours ago | parent

It wont they're just trying making the chat look like more a session iron man would have with jarvis

maherbeg 2 hours ago | parent

Love it. I've been using $visualize a lot in the codex desktop app, and having even richer experiences will be sweet.

robertlagrant 2 hours ago | parent

I wish things like bikes came with mostly-written manuals. Maybe a few diagrams. If anything, things are too pictorial these days.

kingstnap 2 hours ago | parent

GPT-6's design sense is kind of ridiculous imo.

I have explicit instructions to tone it down. Less taglines, eyebrow text, subheadings, decorative spacing, pills, cards.

Hopefully this doesn't bleed into the chat...

briga 1 hour ago | parent

More UI elements == more tokens == more money for OpenAI

It's a pretty clever way to sell more tokens, I have to admit

wvenable 1 hour ago | parent

Except that chat is a fixed monthly fee. More tokens = more cost for them.

briga 1 hour ago | parent

Not on enterprise accounts.

dwood_dev 58 minutes ago | parent

Not for enterprise users, they pay per token, even on chatgpt.com.

apsurd 35 minutes ago | parent

yes the eyebrow is the tell. I never knew anything about eyebrows in design as I am not a designer. Now they are everywhere. Everything has an eyebrow. It is ridiculous but at least it is an AI smoking gun.

utilize1808 2 hours ago | parent

The irony really is that LLMs are partly responsible for the walls and walls of text as seen in the video in the first place.

And now we are asking LLMs to solve it.

mortenjorck 1 hour ago | parent

Of everything that could be automated, Bartosz Ciechanowski really was the last on my list.

In all seriousness, his lovingly and expertly crafted explainers are still going to age like a handcrafted heirloom clock in a world of plastic-clad quartz movements. But it’s absolutely incredible that we are now in an age where a computer can manufacture a serviceable interactive explainer on whatever niche topic you desire.

FLeXMurphy 1 hour ago | parent

The reason why B.C. became a thing is because the art of drafting died from CAD. The attention to detail, the minutae of walking the reader through a highly sophisticated thing was replaced by short-form video explanations. His work is very much a callback to the days of old. So too, is his turn to be relegated to a relic of his time.

bayindirh 1 hour ago | parent

Also, it's hand coded WebGL. It's smooth, faultless and has no peers.

> So too, is his turn to be relegated to a relic of his time.

No, it'll be tasteful artifact, not a relic. Records, fountain pens and automatic watches did not die. They are used by people who discern things, and no, none of these things have to be expensive (i.e. Neither Seiko 5, nor Lamy Safari are expensive, yet they are as dependable as their 100x expensive brethren).

Human touch still has that finesse and warmth.

FLeXMurphy 28 minutes ago | parent

>and has no peers.

On the front page right now - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49980626

bayindirh 22 minutes ago | parent

That's impressive, yes, and kudos to them.

OTOH, I still believe the exploded view on https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/ is something else.

For one, it has real physics on the weight, and second it always shows the correct/current time.

FWIW, his all animations has proper physics to begin with.

The entry you posted is nice, but Ciechanowski is still peerless.

brcmthrowaway 1 hour ago | parent

He's at openai

Game_Ender 53 minutes ago | parent

Do you have source for that?

jdprgm 5 minutes ago | parent

funny if true. ironically just last week i was asking chatgpt about what happened to him and why there were no new blog posts for almost 2 years and it had no idea

customguy 9 minutes ago | parent

Nothing in that "7‑Speed Bicycle" is specific to having 7 speeds. It might as well have said "Bicycle", and even then you get meaningless slop "Made to keep rolling" and "A strong foundation". How can you compare this to Ciechanowski?

You call it serviceable, but what purpose does this service? What do you now know about 7-speed bicycles that you didn't know before?

bogdiyan 1 hour ago | parent

I read the comments here and I am really surprised by many people. One picture is worth a thousand words so with better UI you can make much better user experiences. This unlocks personal assistants to be better adopted by elderly or disabled people. I see so many benefits of it and having models which can do this (if they can do it constantly with good quality) is amazing. Much better products - I am really tired of dumb chatbot - if I can do something with one button or view the whole information in one diagram/image, this is amazing.

revolvingthrow 1 hour ago | parent

I find the Sunday roast comparison of 5.6 vs 6 very interesting. I have no doubt most people will prefer 6, yet I am almost repulsed by all the images, so much needless whitespace, checklist and so on. Feels like I'm being condescended to and treated like a child.

Given that OpenAI is making noises about merging work with chat (a horrible idea imo), and Work is very similar to Codex... I dearly hope things like these won't have any meaningful cross-polination into the actual work tools.

Seeing that the chat is based on 6.0 and not 6.1 is disappointing. The "Visual and interactive explanations" seems genuinely useful, but 6.1 is just so much better. I wouldn't truly trust the 6.1 with the explanations, but I'd trust them a fair bit more than 6.0. I understand that compute isn't infinite, but tons of people only interact with the chat and having your "things-explainer" be as good as it can be is important when people increasingly treat AI models as the source of truth, or even use them for academic learning and whatnot.

Still, the models will improve, so the visual explainer seems pretty good as an idea / mvp.

361994752 1 hour ago | parent

I really hope they don't merge chat and work. That's kinda the only edge they have over Anthropic at this time point...

scrollop 1 hour ago | parent

Tibo posted yesterday I think it was that this will happen (by the end of the year, was it?)

Prepare to lose essentially unlimited chat mode.

I imagine many will move to claude, as I will (return), unless anthropic makes more blunders.

Random link I found looking for the twitter post

https://pasqualepillitteri.it/en/news/21024/openai-merge-cha...

TuxSH 1 hour ago | parent

It's insane how hard OAI is choking, they had much better models than A/ who were fumbling this year to date... then blunder after blunder.

The only things that OAI still have over A/ are better coding agent GUI, no 5hr limit on >$100, much more reasonable cybersec guardrails (that allow most RE work) and... that's it.

ulimn 56 minutes ago | parent

I am curious: Why is it bad to merge chat and work? In Claude I didn't have a porblem with it (although I switched to an OpenAI subscription shortly after they made the merge). Isn't the model capable of deciding if it needs the extra capabilities of Work?

ImprobableTruth 23 minutes ago | parent

The current benefit is that chat has no quota.

joe_the_user 1 hour ago | parent

I don't like either. I'd want a recipe that could fit on a single page with type. Recipes you find on Google actively hide the ingredient list and simple procedures to get more of the user's time to monetize but I don't know why ChatGPT needs to be verbose here. Recipes are simple things. Simple search solved find recipes back in the early 2000s and it's prime example of a thing people have been enshitifying since there's not much to really give people beyond the formula. And sure, every entrepreneur screams "they think they want a formula but really they want an experience" but, no I don't.

bananaflag 1 hour ago | parent

https://based.cooking/

zug_zug 1 hour ago | parent

Yeah it reminds me of one those obnoxious recipe/biography websites that is the laughingstock of the internet. Why would I possibly want an AI image of a imaginary roast once I'm already at the recipe stage?

Kinda just feels like google search results in AI, which imo is a step down from distilled information. Chatgpt is already able to generate charts and visuals upon request.

dominotw 1 hour ago | parent

They just need to train the model to make up stories about how the recipe was invented by its great grandmother during great depression and generate a ai picture of dusty recipie book .

cush 18 minutes ago | parent

> Feels like I'm being condescended to and treated like a child

Curious why that feels condescending? Like, the average person who is seeking a recipe needs a photo to know what to shoot for

AlphaSite 8 minutes ago | parent

You can always tell it your preferences and ask it to remember them if you need it to.

jjcm 1 hour ago | parent

I've been calling this "disposable UI" or "paper plate UI", eg something meant to be used once. One thing I'll be curious about is overzealousness to produce this, when sometimes what you want is just a simple response. Overall though I'm a big fan of it, if it can be provided fast enough. I'd be curious on how much impact it has on latency of a response.

yread 1 hour ago | parent

1.2B weekly active users? WAU!

cameronh90 1 hour ago | parent

Is there any relationship between this and AG-UI or A2UI?

julesrms 1 hour ago | parent

They seem to be pitching something that pretty much all the decent models can already do..?

Obviously if your model is stuck inside a CLI terminal, then not so much. But in a GUI harness (shameless plug for my own one: https://juggler.studio, but I assume others can do this too), you just ask them to answer in HTML and they'll happily draw pretty pictures inline in the conversation. I've been doing this for ages with claude, GPT, Deepseek and others.

franze 1 hour ago | parent

"If you call something intelligent you know what it isn't."

killerstorm 1 hour ago | parent

IIRC Google had an experimental project with this kind of stuff 2 years ago, but Google being Google...

ardaakman 1 hour ago | parent

Similar to https://www.monogram.ai/.

I guess the above is mostly mobile focused.

giancarlostoro 1 hour ago | parent

I'm not a fan of OpenAI / Sam Altman, but I love their blog posts. The team and whoever decides how to do these presentations, is on point. The only other company that has amazing release pages like this is Apple, I think I remember hearing that they probably hired someone from apple who used to do release blog posts there too.

What's funny about "Intelligent UI" is I said like 2 or more years ago, that these AI companies need to start thinking outside of these basic chat UIs, they do some things here and there, but its really depressing how little they do to innovate in these spaces. Same with the coding harnesses, the UI for all these things could be drastically superior.

120492751 1 hour ago | parent

I don't know. This is an amateur page with a bad AI video and chaotic presentation. It is ten levels below Apple announcements.

tencentshill 1 hour ago | parent

Why did they bother hiring someone to write at all? I certainly wouldn't invest $1T into a company with so little confidence in their product. When the chips are down and they need to write something important, they DON'T use AI?

apsurd 1 hour ago | parent

That's just picking a fight. Whatever we think about how amazing or terrible AI is, it's pretty reasonable to understand it is quite literally the weighted average of humanity's output.

Also reasonable: it's possible to hire a world-class ___ to do that job better than AI.

ianbutler 1 hour ago | parent

It's not a weighted average though. I see this repeated all the time. Between synthetic data, custom produced training data by experts, post-training regimes etc the models are far more diverged from that baseline at this point, at this point it's mostly a right shifted curve.

apsurd 53 minutes ago | parent

I hesitated to write that line because I don't know the math. So thanks for clarifying. Main point is the output is along some distribution and I'd say AI-evangelist themselves see "good enough" across everything and anything as a feature.

onion2k 58 minutes ago | parent

Obviously everyone at Anthropic uses a ton of AI in everything. The point here is that they clearly use it well, and that they use it as a tool to augment and enhance what they do rather than as a replacement for effort. The blog posts don't read like the output of a prompt because they're probably the output of dozens of prompts, rewritten and edited, by someone who's using AI to actually write something worth reading.

Anyone can having blog posts as good as this by using AI. Just not by zero-shotting it with a 2 line prompt. It still takes a lot of work.

rfgplk 1 hour ago | parent

Mate this is like half a prompt of GPT-6

lrpe 1 hour ago | parent

I take the opposite viewpoint. I think pages like these are horrible, and a demonstration that web designers have too many tools at their disposal.

But this is just a marketing page for some tech company, right? If only it stopped there. I have to deal with this nonsense in news "articles" as well on occasion, when some web designer intern is allowed to larp as a journalist for a day.

sigh Just give me text to read.

mikestorrent 7 minutes ago | parent

Sometimes you want more than text. This is one of the interesting divides these days - and I say this as someone who spends a lot of time in the terminal. Computer interfaces and interaction did not peak with the VT-100. Sometimes, there is a very legitimate need to show tables, graphics, interesting graphs, and to use colour and shade to draw the eye and lead someone through an experience.

This is why I use an IDE instead of a TUI agent... I'm on a computer with a multi-megapixel display, I want to use it. If I could be driving the same process with my Macintosh SE as a serial terminal, what the hell is the point of my recent Macbook?

mi_lk 1 hour ago | parent

You could say the same thing about Anthropic because I don't really see much differences. Not sure about amazing part but both are high quality and I probably like Anthropic's aesthetic more

fasterik 55 minutes ago | parent

Anthropic's aesthetic looks good by pre-AI design standards, but it's so overused now that I find it off-putting. It's like the 2026 equivalent of the Twitter bootstrap CSS from 15 years ago.

ChrisMarshallNY 59 minutes ago | parent

> probably hired someone from apple

Fairly likely: https://medium.com/the-engineering-brief/openai-hired-400-ap...

dcchambers 54 minutes ago | parent

> these AI companies need to start thinking outside of these basic chat UIs, they do some things here and there, but its really depressing how little they do to innovate in these spaces. Same with the coding harnesses, the UI for all these things could be drastically superior.

I would prefer if the AI companies stuck to just creating better models and making them as cheap and accessible as possible. Let others build the products. I don't want 1-2 companies to own every product in the world.

xg15 40 minutes ago | parent

> I don't want 1-2 companies to own every product in the world.

That seems to be the plan...

timacles 38 minutes ago | parent

That’s the plan for … capitalism

Buckle up boys

goatlover 36 minutes ago | parent

Sounds rather late stage.

Foobar8568 22 minutes ago | parent

Well, like 30 years ago, a French comedy show had foreseen it, the "World Company" buying everything, no need to understand French to understand the "joke" at the end https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4du7uh

Shorel 42 minutes ago | parent

I think the point is not how good this blog post is as if it was written by a human, but that this blog post is entirely generated by the GPT-6 model.

So this is a taste of the slop that's going to invade everywhere in a few months.

jonathanstrange 1 hour ago | parent

I feel like I'm going mad looking at this page. The bike disassembly looks fake to me, like an alien would show presumed bike parts, but I can't tell why and don't know much about bikes. Maybe it's because there are no screws and nuts?

What is it supposed to demonstrate? That the model knows some kind of folk mereology?

TheOtherHobbes 1 hour ago | parent

Apart from the math stuff, maybe, this is the appearance of useful information rather than the presentation of actionable practical information.

I suspect it will struggle with anything that isn't simple enough for demo-mode or lifestyle fluff.

gtt44 1 hour ago | parent

It’s demonstrating a lack of understanding of the average person by those at the frontier.

Remember when Steve said ‘the computer for the rest of us?’ We’re seeing that here.

interstice 1 hour ago | parent

This seems like an expansion on something I was getting my agent to do which is use 'cards' to communicate using things like tables, rather than the ascii table stuff Claude code likes to do.

Unsure if this has been done already but the best thing I did was get it to create a list of next steps as quick buttons that it keeps updated in a docked card. It works well but occasionally gets stuck on some un related rabbit hole.

xnickb 1 hour ago | parent

Funny to see a blog post about UI from one of the most funded tech companies in the world, yet the player has about the worst UI possible:

- Audio volume has 2 levels: on and off

- Play button worked exactly once for me: it played and looped the video. Couldn't be stopped afterwards.

- The video progress bar has no visual indication of where it starts and where it ends..

Is this what Phind died for?

dist-epoch 34 minutes ago | parent

Hate it or not, the only site which has usable video player is YouTube.

Even TV channels like CNN and FoxNews don't have a decent one.

It's like we need ASI to have a proper embedded video player. The ultimate software challenge.

hacker_88 1 hour ago | parent

Gemini had this UI thing before .

120492751 1 hour ago | parent

"But when will we recoup our investments?" Investor to Gavin Belson after he presents a whole zoo of animals for analogies.

This is now trying to steal YouTube repair and cooking videos. Here is news for you: People prefer YouTube repair and cooking videos.

PetahNZ 1 hour ago | parent

I donno, I like iterating on a recipie with chat rather than watching a video.

vel0city 1 hour ago | parent

If the diagrams and descriptions are actually well-designed and written, I'd far prefer those. Especially one where I can ask clarifying questions. I'd much prefer a Haynes with some of the images lightly animated than having a 10 minute long video with a long intro for monetization reasons about how to do some simple thing where you can barely see what the mechanic is actually doing in the cramped, poorly lit, 360p video is trying to look at.

But getting actual service manuals cheap/free these days can be tricky, and their quality can leave a good bit to be desired.

dominotw 40 minutes ago | parent

cooking videos are entertainment

manlymuppet 1 hour ago | parent

There have been recent developments that allow people to interpret Swift on device, live. With this new launch, will the AI be able to write native code and compile it on device? That would be super cool.

dominotw 1 hour ago | parent

> We’ve trained GPT‑6 to compose responses using text, visuals and interactive elements, choosing how they fit together based on your question.

Ok so this is how you build a moat. Models are not a commodity and visualization isnt a purely harness problem.

> We expanded our training methods to help the model make thoughtful decisions about content, layout, visuals, and interaction. This included evaluating the interfaces it creates for clarity, usefulness, and completeness. GPT‑6 learned to use the component library and make good design decisions, including how to organize information clearly, when to use interactivity, and when a simple text response is enough.

Curious to know how they trained it produce appropriate visuals. And why that cant be done with propmt engineering.

gtt44 1 hour ago | parent

Nope

ddxv 1 hour ago | parent

I'm curious to see how useful this is. I feel like in practice the existing versions of this feel like they get in the way. While I'm sure I've had some situations where a visual would be helpful, there are two situations where I do not want it:

1) I want a quick answer, and I don't care for the boilerplate UI. For example, if I ask how to make pancakes, I make them all the time and just want to a quick reminder on the ratios, but it might trigger a full UI that I need to sort through to find information.

2) If I ask a to me unrelated to UI question and it triggers a big UI build that is completely off topic for my question (meaning I'm desperately pressing the stop button and prepping rewriting my query)

Or the other one I see, for example if I look up a unix command like:

"ls all hidden files in the /xxx directory"

And I get back:

"Sorry, I am am unable to find /xxx in my current environment"

xnx 1 hour ago | parent

Sounds like Google's Generative UI (Nov 2025): https://research.google/blog/generative-ui-a-rich-custom-vis...

Alifatisk 1 hour ago | parent

I gotta admit, I love how their design system and how they market things. It looks so good. However the true state of their toolings is closer to a burning dumpster fire. If you look at Codex Github repo for example, the amount of existing issues and continuously new issues appearing while tagged releases is being spewed out. Its truly a nightmare. Their vscode extension has been broken for almost 1 week now, if not more. Its instead a community effort to repair it.

dbacar 1 hour ago | parent

We are becoming more and more as a tool for sth to be done rather than the brain behind it. At least I start to feel this way. The joy of discovery, exploration and experiencing at first hand... It is slowly diminishing for the perfection of the quick outcome.

virtuosarmo 1 hour ago | parent

This seems like a way for them to surface ads in ChatGPT. They just came out with visual ad format option for advertisers a couple of days ago: https://openai.com/index/new-chatgpt-ads-format-and-measurem...

NeumannGod 1 hour ago | parent

Why show an intelligent UI within a chat interface. That’s pathetically lame. Better to go away from chat interfaces to rich visual interfaces. Doesn’t sound intelligent at all to me

colordrops 1 hour ago | parent

"why do I need an Nvidia B300 to render the same webpage that ran fine on my Pentium with Windows 98?"

pluc 57 minutes ago | parent

"More than" 20% of the connected world uses ChatGPT each week eh? I guess if you add Anthropic who must also claim 20% and Google, Meta.. that does not sound realistic at all.

binlog 48 minutes ago | parent

- Anthropic’s total user base is minuscule compared to the rest, and they have never claimed otherwise.

- People don’t have to stick to a single provider. They can all claim the same 20%.

telesilla 54 minutes ago | parent

Let's remember.. 'Climbers rescued from Mount Shasta after relying on ChatGPT for trip planning'

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49542814

simonw 48 minutes ago | parent

I think this means that the API "chat-latest" model is now serving a custom GPT-6 variant: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/chat-latest

dist-epoch 40 minutes ago | parent

Interesting, in Chat mode, if you expand the model selector it says "GPT-6", but in Work mode it says "GPT-6 Astra".

totallygeeky 45 minutes ago | parent

This seems like a nightmare for standardization and accessibility, no?

perelin 40 minutes ago | parent

Has AI not been always?

theflyestpilot 43 minutes ago | parent

I'm confused. Are they trying steamroll every developers B2C product or are they wanting these same developers to continue building MCP-App plugins on the platform?

vb-8448 40 minutes ago | parent

It's much simpler: they want others to experiment (and pay them) and see what works, once they know what works they will drive out of market other players.

darepublic 30 minutes ago | parent

Instead of apps or websites merely APIs and intelligent UI in front. With the ability to render data gathered across multiple domains

jdprgm 22 minutes ago | parent

All those recipe blogs and sites that have figured out the most inefficient way to deliver information are finally cooked.

pmkary 20 minutes ago | parent

It's interesting how the bicycle is a fake example. You see Jony Ive level design, with a very complex 3d object seamlessly working, and then you see the basic HTML slop in other examples and you begin to wonder if that first one was fabeication.

program_whiz 12 minutes ago | parent

Honestly it feels like AI companies are still searching for the killer idea that will attract the general public (beyond "be my AI bf" or "better google").

Getting a UI that explains the parts of a bike is ok I guess, but isn't it simpler to get an actual breakdown? Google "parts of bicycle breakout" gets tons of useful images instantly.

Getting a specialized app to split a bill? It was already trivial to put in a calculator if we cared to go item by item on the bill. Having to provide names and tag every item as I go is just more work. Usually real people just go $total divide by 5, I had more, let me chip in an extra $10.

Same with booking travel and wedding plans, these aren't things people would even delegate to a trusted friend usually, much less a one-off request to an AI bot or custom UI.

Most of the useful tasks it can do right now are research, technical question/answer, coding. In terms of "build a flexible ui that solves real-world problem", if existing mobile app isn't useful in this arena, then its unlikely a completely custom UI will do the job.

That said, I've done a few small ones like a quick one to practice alphabet of a foreign language, or prototyping a web game, and the like. But ultimately its nothing that is worth trillions of dollars.

efields 12 minutes ago | parent

The medium is the message here. As others have said, chat output largely sucks for anything but the most basic responses and we've done little to improve upon that foundational UI in the last couple years. We've _added_ a lot for specific domains like coding and document editing, but the primary content normal users get back from the chats is verbose and uninteresting. This is a step in the right direction.

Gettin closer to fully dynamic interfaces for a lot of software. Hell, give me a mode in Google Docs that takes every pixel of chrome away then vibe the rest as I need it. Persist across new documents going forward.

kart23 8 minutes ago | parent

for the sunday lamb roast instructions, how much is 1500g of potatoes? What kind of potatoes?

> Also pick up garlic, rosemary, thyme, lemons, honey, almonds, olive oil, gravy ingredients, mint sauce, crumble topping and vanilla ice cream.

what??? how the hell are you supposed to remember all that. Even the before example tells you what kind of potatoes to get. tbh it would be cool if you could just click a button and get an order pre-filled out on a grocery delivery/pickup service. I really wonder who reviewed this post and if they cook, because imagining yourself in that scenario and reading those instructions falls apart very fast

lukewarm707 5 minutes ago | parent

"The apocalypse will be televised"

kirykl 4 minutes ago | parent

A Chat AI creating on the fly UX widgets is like Amazon’s brick and mortar stores