114 points simjue 2 hours ago 44 comments
smashed 1 hour ago | parent
georgemcbay 1 hour ago | parent
Only made it a couple of "pages" in and had to close the tab entirely because of the convoluted animated presentation.
None of it felt like it was in service of anything other than screaming "look how neat this is!" which is just terribly distracting.
alt227 1 hour ago | parent
pqs 1 hour ago | parent
rpozarickij 32 minutes ago | parent
Drupon 22 minutes ago | parent
aembleton 15 minutes ago | parent
jdw64 1 hour ago | parent
That’s true, after all. Technically very new or challenging technologies get the spotlight from many people, but these technologies are very important yet are a kind of engine technology that is less visible... I’m curious how this should be identified or selected.
That said, if you set up a committee, the committee could also become an inner circle based on their personal connections.
dyauspitr 1 hour ago | parent
ElijahLynn 1 hour ago | parent
alpaca128 56 minutes ago | parent
A handful of companies probably care a bit but most won't bother to pay even a penny.
socalgal2 39 minutes ago | parent
I'm sympathetic to this topic but I hate the framing. "The people holding up the internet" includes thousands of people at Google, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, and yes, some volunteers too who are doing as a hobby.
They are free to give it up and stop doing it. Some person or company will pick it up.
Muromec 24 minutes ago | parent
interloxia 1 hour ago | parent
charcircuit 1 hour ago | parent
perlgeek 1 hour ago | parent
charcircuit 1 hour ago | parent
advael 1 hour ago | parent
colesantiago 1 hour ago | parent
OSS is a strategy, not a business model, and it is certainly not a good lifestyle for developers.
ierukah 41 minutes ago | parent
mentalgear 1 hour ago | parent
I'm all for open ideals, but we shouldn't be as naive to ignore how stuff we build on these ideals - if offered completely free - will eventually almost exclusively profit only those private entities that best know how to use them, hide them in a 'proprietary chain' and use VC capital to invest more in PR, markting and sales than engineering to reap all the benefits off them.
Therefore, I think, the original problem was that most software wasn't automatically defaulting to a limited-commercial (e.g. business of > million revenue must pay for usage in their product) or AGPL licenses that would benefit all - by either allowing maintainers to get a share from the success the helped build, or making the resulting products build on top, instead of private profit, available freely to all.
pseudony 1 hour ago | parent
(Much like contributing back in taxes for the infrastructure used and the educational system producing the qualified employees. But that may be a bridge too far for some of HNs readership :) )
cyberrock 49 minutes ago | parent
vbezhenar 1 hour ago | parent
Havoc 1 hour ago | parent
blitzar 1 hour ago | parent
thefz 44 minutes ago | parent
bob1029 45 minutes ago | parent
What would prevent abuse of this kind of program?
thefz 45 minutes ago | parent
Why should the public make up for private savings? Hey billionaire x does not like to spend for his software, let's all raise some funds so he does not have to.
colesantiago 1 hour ago | parent
Now AI has made software abundant, there really isn't any need to pay maintainers really.
Enterprises can just fork it, rebuild the software for their own needs and not contribute anything back.
Even if the license is AGPL, they ignore it anyway and it is unenforceable.
drybjed 59 minutes ago | parent
bob1029 32 minutes ago | parent
Maybe these maintainers could simply cease doing all this free work? There are other ways to make a living. Perhaps even doing the same thing but with better negotiation skills. No one is forcing anyone to do this. The reality is that if 100% of the tzdb and SQLite teams disappeared today, Microsoft and Google would have these projects back under stable operation before the weekend.
We cannot expect a realistic economy to arbitrarily compensate people who originally did not seek compensation without a lot of really bad side effects. Does anyone on HN have any actual evidence that the maintainers of truly load bearing infrastructure (billions of devices+) are genuinely struggling economically?
GoblinSlayer 27 minutes ago | parent
That happens with linux, if businesses don't want their supply chain to vanish.
But, hey, we are trying communism :)
ferrouswheel 19 minutes ago | parent
tuyiown 4 minutes ago | parent
The most ridiculous thing is that idealistic open-source maintainers are still doing it, while this is being an established status quo for at least 30 years. Or maybe they have their incentive, and, while I don't find it palatable too, large corporations understands that. What's _your_ incentive in having such strong opinions about that ?
ElijahLynn 1 hour ago | parent
kabakabakaba 55 minutes ago | parent
The xz story is so depressing. The only person who stepped up to help him was someone trying to plant a backdoor...
brynet 53 minutes ago | parent
https://www.openbsd.org/want.html
The OpenBSD foundation is ~23% away from its fundraising goal for 2026, which helps support developer hackathons and project infrastructure, etc.
https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/campaign2026.html
Shamelessly, if I may add a personal plea, in addition to funding the open source projects you use, if you can, please do consider directly supporting individual contributors/developers personally who work on those projects, many are volunteers and even a small monthly contribution could mean the difference.
dirkc 41 minutes ago | parent
While I agree that there is a problem of recognition and appreciation, I also feel like the spirit of making a small contribution without expecting a return is what enables the open whole source ecosystem that many of us benefit from.
gitowiec 7 minutes ago | parent
throwfaraway135 7 minutes ago | parent
I don't mean that the achievement of those people is unimportant, but dislike when people mix up the idea of "dependence out of convenience" vs "dependence out of necessity".