93 points Anon84 1 hour ago 39 comments

vintagedave 1 hour ago | parent

nervai 1 hour ago | parent

Reminder that the US administration is on a campaign to dismantle the ICC for echoing similar findings to this Nobel Prize winner in her role at UNHRC [1].

I'm extremely grateful to, and humbled by, these people continuing their brave work knowing they will face the full wrath of the US and Israel govs and their campaigns to dismantle accountability for the worst crimes.

[1] https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...

vincnetas 20 minutes ago | parent

"The ICC poses an intolerable threat to U.S. sovereignty – it claims the authority to prosecute and even imprison American servicemen and officials operating on behalf of America’s national interest. Americans never signed up for this, and all American presidents since the ICC’s ratification have maintained that the ICC does not have jurisdiction over Americans. The ICC previously opened an investigation into U.S. servicemen and intelligence officers and has since refused to close these cases."

Yeah, but somehow if i do some illegal shit according to USA they have no problem arresting me when i come visit (or if they really eager they come to visit me). But how dare you tell us what we can do or cant do INTOLERABLE.

Telemakhos 5 minutes ago | parent

Yes, that’s what sovereignty means: a sovereign state governs itself and is not governed by others. A sovereign state can agree to abide by certain rules or submit some disputes to another arbiter, but it does so consensually by treaty. The US never ratified a treaty establishing the authority of the ICC, so it has not consented to that diminution of sovereignty.

You as an individual are not sovereign, and when you come to the land over which the US is sovereign, you are subject to US law.

Vaslo 7 minutes ago | parent

Yes because the only law that the US needs to recognize is its own.

JensRantil 59 minutes ago | parent

Yay, congrats Navi! Thanks for contributing to international law!

killingtime74 59 minutes ago | parent

I was just checking which were the top guesses on polymarket before the announcement and this winner was not even a choice on there. At least we know there's no insider trading at the Nobel foundation.

hparadiz 57 minutes ago | parent

Because it's so insanely offensive to the point of absurd.

hackyhacky 56 minutes ago | parent

Can you explain why this choice is offensive to you?

BigTTYGothGF 6 minutes ago | parent

One wonders how you would have felt about the 1973 prize if you had been alive at the time.

rags2riches 37 minutes ago | parent

> In accordance with Nobel's will, the prize is selected by the Norwegian Nobel Committee, a five-member committee appointed by the Parliament of Norway unlike all the other awards chosen by the Swedish Nobel Committee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize

There's been accusations of leaks in connection to bets with the Nobel Price in Literature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_in_Literature_cont...

haunter 11 minutes ago | parent

throwfaraway135 55 minutes ago | parent

Nobel Peace Prize is meaningless, people don't care about actual genocides why would they care about genocide+ (including rape)?

It's like having your house on fire but patting yourself on the back for fixing a lamp.

gpvos 45 minutes ago | parent

It is, like many things, how much meaning you attach to it yourself. Apparently Donald T. thinks it's very important, he makes a lot of fuss about it.

Anyway, the NPP is one of the things that tries to push humanity on a broad scale in a better direction, and I'm grateful for that. It is important to at least speak out about injustice, and to celebrate those who do so, otherwise those injustices are never going to be fixed (I'm not even talking about punishing, although that should be done).

onepunchedman 39 minutes ago | parent

Great to see that they're not afraid to stand up to the rising authoritarianism

fifilura 16 minutes ago | parent

The committee is independent from politics although some dictators may at times misunderstand that.

ReptileMan 6 minutes ago | parent

They should just rename it. Very little of the recent winners have made the world more peaceful. May have contributed to making it better.