161 points ortusdux 2 hours ago 154 comments
lapkaaaa 1 hour ago | parent
Legend2440 1 hour ago | parent
Not just for datacenters either - warehouses, refineries, power stations, you could sell to anybody with a building full of expensive stuff.
mrweasel 1 hour ago | parent
throwaway85825 1 hour ago | parent
Legend2440 1 hour ago | parent
Drone attacks on US soil are (hopefully!) not happening anytime soon.
dudefeliciano 34 minutes ago | parent
So...the west if we go by the recent statements of chancellor Merz
dylan604 17 minutes ago | parent
drnick1 3 minutes ago | parent
This would be incredibly stupid. An attack on American soil could be met with a literally nuclear response against Iran or whoever perpetrated it.
jameshart 1 hour ago | parent
delecti 1 hour ago | parent
flohofwoe 1 hour ago | parent
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/05/28/russia-lets-privat...
odiroot 1 hour ago | parent
qizzup 1 hour ago | parent
ofjcihen 42 minutes ago | parent
RealityVoid 1 hour ago | parent
I'd invest in digging equipment for the next war.
clan 1 hour ago | parent
RealityVoid 1 hour ago | parent
jcfrei 1 hour ago | parent
Legend2440 1 hour ago | parent
2OEH8eoCRo0 22 minutes ago | parent
dylan604 14 minutes ago | parent
RealityVoid 8 minutes ago | parent
numpad0 1 hour ago | parent
bookofjoe 1 hour ago | parent
rithdmc 1 hour ago | parent
cheney_2004 1 hour ago | parent
Arubis 1 hour ago | parent
That said, I’m in agreement in principle. A lot of what you’re asking for is statecraft, and doing that with a profit model is brittle to corruption. But I’d greatly prefer to see folks trying to build things on hope then on bloodshed.
libertine 1 hour ago | parent
dylan604 7 minutes ago | parent
toomuchtodo 1 hour ago | parent
If your strategy assumes you can succeed against Iron Dome (which, I argue, is the state of the art for available air defense system), you should always be able to win as an attacker. Just have to test defenses ahead of time to understand level of effort required (munition capabilities, cadence, and quantity required, broadly speaking).
https://missilethreat.csis.org/countermeasures-penetration-a...
doublerabbit 1 hour ago | parent
Obelisks from Command and Conquer pinned to the roof of the DC would be amusing although personally I'm leaning towards prism towers.
toomuchtodo 1 hour ago | parent
If someone wants to take out a data center, they will likely succeed assuming they have the resources (probably military drones, but perhaps more traditional ballistic artillery). The world has become a more dangerous, volatile, and unpredictable place, for gestures broadly at everything reasons.
(thoughts, opinions, and threat model always my own)
dylan604 8 minutes ago | parent
numpad0 19 minutes ago | parent
idontwantthis 1 hour ago | parent
tokai 1 hour ago | parent
throwaway85825 1 hour ago | parent
tokai 1 hour ago | parent
yolp5 1 hour ago | parent
outside1234 1 hour ago | parent
klvino 1 hour ago | parent
omgwtfbyobbq 47 minutes ago | parent
Whatever isn't used/destroyed could be recovered wherever it lands after a day or two.
It should be less expensive a possibly more effective in certain circumstances because of increased carrying capacity.
numpad0 1 hour ago | parent
The US State Department will throw everything at you if you dare tried to build or possess your own guided guns and rockets, even if you were not from or in the US - because there was a US ally that exported a near-orbital solid motor sounding rocket to a Balkan nation with full factory setup and manufacturing training services without asking anybody in particular, which resulted in the recipient nation achieving prototype production and successful live fire tests of an indigenous surface to air missile system comparable to Soviet S-75 strategic SAM that was eventually selected.
If it weren't for those pile of laws and leverages... building a SAM was doable since 1950s.
idiotsecant 59 minutes ago | parent
axus 43 minutes ago | parent
Though someone like Amazon will have to calculate, is the 50-year cost of protecting all facilities less than the 50-year cost of rebuilding the ones that are destroyed?
asanineassasin 33 minutes ago | parent
SyneRyder 26 minutes ago | parent
nradov 4 minutes ago | parent
asanineassasin 35 minutes ago | parent
dylan604 21 minutes ago | parent
cyanydeez 1 hour ago | parent
majorchord 1 hour ago | parent
breppp 1 hour ago | parent
r721 1 hour ago | parent
>Scottish independence accounts go dark after Iran internet blackout
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/01/12/scottish-ind...
lsofzz 1 hour ago | parent
thinkcontext 1 hour ago | parent
bayindirh 1 hour ago | parent
idontwantthis 1 hour ago | parent
bayindirh 1 hour ago | parent
I'm not a fan of wars, regardless of where they happen. OTOH, I still believe you can fight relatively clean or be an unethical bully. If the war is unavoidable, I prefer to be the former.
I also commend Ukraine's ingenuity and bravery, as well.
ifwinterco 1 hour ago | parent
dizhn 1 hour ago | parent
I haven't seen any site I frequent mention this once. The PR bubble is very real.
tokai 1 hour ago | parent
stickfigure 1 hour ago | parent
olexsmir 56 minutes ago | parent
HarHarVeryFunny 1 hour ago | parent
Whatever is happening now is payback for Putin's birthday present to himself from 2 days ago, firing a missile into a Ukrainian apartment building that killed 22 civilians (mostly women & children).
arpinum 1 hour ago | parent
SXX 1 hour ago | parent
Also unlike in Ukraine local organizations are required to run on infrastructure inside country by law and even major peering points are very centralised. Connections between Russia and other countries are even more centralised.
So it doesnt matter in what order datacenters going to be destroyed. Ukraine just need to take down enough of them.
bbor 1 hour ago | parent
The most serious disruptions were reported in Moscow and St. Petersburg, where users also experienced problems with T-Bank, internet provider SkyNet, and the Mango Office cloud service... Yandex Disk, Yandex Documents, and other company services... online bus-ticket sales in the Moscow region [via] MosTransAvto... Several major Russian media websites, including RBC, RIA Novosti, Kommersant, Vedomosti, Interfax, and Vesti... Russian Railways...
And all that's before this attack. We'll see what the extent is, I guess.So I'd say the goal here is to intimidate and/or inconvenience the Russian public and general economy, which is the main way they'll advance a war against a country they are forbidden from invading to any semi-meaningful degree (due to nukes). Permenantly destroying data would be nice, sure, but service interruption is already such a huge win that it'd be a marginal improvement only, IMHO.
That is, unless there are cloud-native banks without backups, which... yikes! Possible, I suppose?
SXX 1 hour ago | parent
ceejayoz 49 minutes ago | parent
SXX 40 minutes ago | parent
Adding 200ms of latency wont affect anyone living much and China will happily sell datacenter capacity to it's vassal state.
Aozora7 30 minutes ago | parent
ndom91 11 minutes ago | parent
chmod775 1 hour ago | parent
tokai 1 hour ago | parent
HarHarVeryFunny 57 minutes ago | parent
cma 48 minutes ago | parent
pftburger 1 hour ago | parent
idontwantthis 1 hour ago | parent
doublerabbit 52 minutes ago | parent
https://united24media.com/world/yandex-hides-all-four-cloud-...
WarmWash 1 hour ago | parent
The ideal is turning on Putin, but what does that even look like? The guy has 9 layers of isolation, a carefully curated and frequently culled leadership, and a robust propaganda department.
So at the breaking point, will Russians storm the capital or storm Ukraine?
speransky 1 hour ago | parent
stickfigure 1 hour ago | parent
darkwi11ow 1 hour ago | parent
Second, the opinion of citizen does not count in russia anyway. It is an opinion of oligarchs and people in control that matters. Putin and his cronies are in their 70s and will go away soon. Whoever replaces the fuhrer and his clique needs to understand that messing with Ukraine is very costly affair. The more destruction is unleashed on russia now, the less bellirigent it will be in the future.
renyicircle 1 hour ago | parent
In which ways does the situation where "most Russians turn on Ukraine" differ from the current reality?
konart 12 minutes ago | parent
https://wciom.ru/analytical-reviews/analiticheskii-obzor/spe...
Grollicus 1 hour ago | parent
pphysch 56 minutes ago | parent
After Nord Stream, we all know what those maniacs are capable of.
libertine 27 minutes ago | parent
All for some messed up sense of ethnic superiority.
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russo-Ukrain...
krior 15 minutes ago | parent
binlog 1 hour ago | parent
As opposed to right now where they are the best of friends?
olexsmir 1 hour ago | parent
rjsw 1 hour ago | parent
1970-01-01 56 minutes ago | parent
tryauuum 37 minutes ago | parent
yes if you could magically organize 10_000 people they could overthrow anyone. But organizing is hard. Starting from a fact that they need some secure comminution channel, and the government fights VPN quite actively. How would you reach these potential people? You could do sort of broadcast a public message "if you don't like tsar let's take a walk tomorrow" but this signal would also be received by the police, so they can prepare. And we don't have the beautiful gun ownership culture of America.
And if you do something alone you just perish in prison.
1970-01-01 11 minutes ago | parent
TrueRider 19 minutes ago | parent
"The problem is that Europeans are too afraid to turn on their motherland "reasons," but that is exactly what has to happen to end to illegal migration. Hard to take medicine is indeed hard to take at first, but things are not getting better without it."
PestoDiRucola 12 minutes ago | parent
cmrdporcupine 55 minutes ago | parent
libertine 49 minutes ago | parent
Yet they closed their eyes to everything, from the destruction of freedom of press, to corruption, even to political alternatives not being allowed, even to the war.
Aozora7 21 minutes ago | parent
Russians may believe a lot of bullshit from TV, but when it comes to decisions that impact their own life, they act surprisingly rationally, and become very skeptical of anything the government says.
PestoDiRucola 14 minutes ago | parent
Who cares. Their government started this, and by all accounts most of their population supports, or is indifferent to it. They made their bed and they can now lie in it.
> So at the breaking point, will Russians storm the capital or storm Ukraine?
They've been storming Ukraine for the past 4 years now.
renyicircle 1 hour ago | parent
petcat 1 hour ago | parent
And the quality of targeting is almost entirely because of extensive USA intelligence sharing:
> According to American and Ukrainian officials familiar with the operations:
> Ukraine selects targets, although American intelligence reportedly also helps identify high-priority facilities.
> The US identifies vulnerabilities at Russian energy installations.
> American intelligence assists with mission planning, including routes, altitude, and timing to help Ukrainian drones evade Russian air defenses.
> US involvement extends across multiple stages of planning, according to three people familiar with the operations.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-intelligence-helps-u...
pi-rat 1 hour ago | parent
binlog 1 hour ago | parent
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pi-rat 51 minutes ago | parent
Zigurd 3 minutes ago | parent
hiddencost 49 minutes ago | parent
It's probably one of the safest places on the planet.
Zigurd 4 minutes ago | parent
nixass 1 hour ago | parent
outside1234 1 hour ago | parent
drewg123 1 hour ago | parent
biesnecker 1 hour ago | parent
SXX 48 minutes ago | parent
Nebius which is basically was out-of-Russia part Yandex is now larger than what left of Yandex in Russia.
brianwawok 1 hour ago | parent
bayindirh 1 hour ago | parent
drewg123 1 hour ago | parent
bayindirh 1 hour ago | parent
If you need high performance or AI operations... GLHF!
HackerThemAll 1 hour ago | parent
ACCount39 1 hour ago | parent
As is often the case, embargoes don't make things impossible - but they do add friction. Longer lead times, "grey market partner" premiums. People who supply Russian companies with hardware get to pad their pockets - and while they have ties in Russia, for obvious reasons, they prefer to keep those padded pockets outside Russia itself.
It's even worse for bleeding edge in-demand extra-controlled hardware like modern AI systems.
tryauuum 56 minutes ago | parent
But how many of them exist and how easy is to replace, I have no idea
PeterCorless 59 minutes ago | parent
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland/drone-and-data-ce...
bojan 36 minutes ago | parent
oulipo 3 minutes ago | parent
we want a safe a decentralized infrastructure
RIMR 22 minutes ago | parent
Here's a better source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-yandex-says-sec...
phainopepla2 6 minutes ago | parent
(looks like they changed "center" to "centre")
nalekberov 15 minutes ago | parent
RomanPushkin 12 minutes ago | parent
April 27, 2020:
"Yandex highlighted negative articles about Navalny in its search results; the company called it an "experiment."
https://zona-media.translate.goog/news/2020/04/27/navyandex?...
elmer2 8 minutes ago | parent