39 points robaato 2 hours ago 20 comments

jeffybefffy519 1 hour ago | parent

Somali pirates WERE fishermen before being pirates... They turned to piracy to combat other countries fishing their waters.

readthenotes1 58 minutes ago | parent

And then they turn to piracy for its own sake because they realized how lucrative it was

IncreasePosts 57 minutes ago | parent

No, the pirates are organized crime syndicates. They are not the same people who were fishing the waters 35 years ago

happyopossum 50 minutes ago | parent

That’s a great story, with very little attachment to reality.

dmbche 27 minutes ago | parent

infinite_spin 21 minutes ago | parent

>> Foreign fishing has increased more than twenty-fold since 1981

>> Illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing by foreign fishing vessels in Somali waters has been problematic for decades .

>> The central government collapsed in 1991, and the ensuing increase in foreign fishing became a justification for piracy against fishing vessels.

(https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/marine-science/articles...)

Other areas of the world have had similar responses to foreign commercial fishing:

>> In Southeast Asia, as competition for fish and other maritime resources intensified following the Asian Financial Crisis in 1997-1998, increases in industrial fish catch volumes by foreign fleets led to sharp increases in South China Sea pirate attacks organized by residents of villages reliant on small-scale fisheries

(https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...)

>> Piracy is a growing concern in Sierra Leone, particularly in the northern maritime areas. Foreign trawlers have been attacked and robbed of both their catch and personal effects. Most of the pirates are reported to be from Guinea.

(https://wikileaks.jcvignoli.com/cable_09FREETOWN258)

However, there is evidence that piracy is more likely to exist in places where illegal fishing has declined. (With the disclaimer that "this research does not refute the earlier-held notion that foreign trawlers produce dissatisfied local fishers who turn towards piracy as a defense against foreign intruders."

(https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096262982...)

rayiner 14 minutes ago | parent

This isn’t true. Somali piracy has a long history: https://cnrs-scrn.org/northern_mariner/vol23/tnm_23_239-266....

“Contrary to this perception” that piracy was in response to illegal fishing, “piracy was precipitated by the culture of looting rooted in Somali pastoralists’ long-standing means for acquiring otherwise unobtainable cash and goods. This culture was partly created by impoverished conditions, massive unemployment, and lack of local opportunities for education or any other path to better living standards.”

samlinnfer 1 hour ago | parent

AI slop article from ai slop site.

mikeatlas 1 hour ago | parent

> Both things can be true.

Ughhh I hear this like 5x a day now. It's the new emdashery.

helpfulclippy 33 minutes ago | parent

Unless someone is a structural engineer or something, I never want to hear the term "load-bearing" again.

victorhooi 28 minutes ago | parent

Aha...gold star =)...10 points to Gryffindor....well played, Sir.

phoghed 11 minutes ago | parent

Damn shame how often people need to be reminded of this, I agree

esafak 5 minutes ago | parent

Por qué no...