62 points slowin 1 hour ago 18 comments

swingboy 59 minutes ago | parent

The whole Skydance/Paramount (Ellison) take over of Warner Bros, CBS, etc. and then installing people like Bari Weiss as editor-in-chief does _not_ help the “own the media” trope.

AftHurrahWinch 53 minutes ago | parent

For context, because swingboy is being oblique, Ellison and Weiss are both Jewish and the word omitted before "own the media" is Jews.

ActionHank 45 minutes ago | parent

Let's drop the labels and state the facts, there are a group of people who are using the media to push an agenda that is covering up atrocities.

Atrocities on both sides don't negate that atrocities are happening.

Editors hold a high integrity position, these ones are not apparently operating with integrity.

buellerbueller 11 minutes ago | parent

Indeed, but the commenter is correct that the facts they have laid out do not help nix the conspiracy theories. In fact, they align to the conspiracies perfectly.

I am not agreeing with the conspiracies, but the optics here are just bad.

ciconia 31 minutes ago | parent

I'd say you're projecting. Reading the parent comment I understood it to simply mean "reactionaries", nothing more.

cucumber3732842 9 minutes ago | parent

I don't care what their religion is. I care that they want to run cover for a foreign nation that's interests do not align with mine.

manphone 52 minutes ago | parent

Compared to most Americans, it is safe to say that we have a Zionist mainstream media right now. The American people do not support the genocide in Gaza the media mostly does. The billionaires mostly do. We have concert tours being canceled for the temerity to say free Palestine.

superxpro12 22 minutes ago | parent

its wild to me how much power aipac wields.... my house of rep in rural maryland was like "palestine has no right to exist"... like why tf does this guy give a hoot?

ActionHank 9 minutes ago | parent

Could he even find Palestine on a map?

buellerbueller 9 minutes ago | parent

My Democratic rep voted to sanction the ICC for having the temerity to want to hold a trial.

I will be voting Libertarian this year. I don't give a flying fart if that means Republican control of the house; I won't support genocide. Unfortunately, until people take stands like this (i.e., cutting out the "Blue No Matter Who" BS), there will be no long term improvement in governance.

hn_go_brrrrr 8 minutes ago | parent

Because people he's campaigning to (like you) do. I would be quite surprised if he brought it up without any of his constituents making it obvious that they cared.

BLKNSLVR 8 minutes ago | parent

That's an excellent point. Overtly having an opinion on something well outside his jurisdiction is essentially proof of purchase.

It's also strongly demonstrative of the increasing gap between 'those with even a small amount of power' and 'normal people'. Said gap leads to misalignment of actions and values which, generally, only serve to further increase the size of the gap.

Topic derailment: what is the justification for anyone to say that any group of people has no right to exist?

It would be antisemitic to say that Israel has no right to exist. What anti- is it to say that Palestine has no right to exist, and why is saying one of those things media-scandal-worthy and the other send almost acceptable as a 'normal' position to hold?

Racism and bigotry either way, so far as my logic works. But then my logic has rarely helped me to understand human behavior.

lovich 58 seconds ago | parent

> What anti- is it to say that Palestine has no right to exist…

Arabs are semites too so ironically I think the term is still anti-semitism

api 4 minutes ago | parent

Can you imagine the (justifiable) outrage if a lobbying front for any other nation wielded this much power?

Russia? China? Any mostly Muslim country? Mexico? Even Canada or any European country?

The UK is the only other nation I can imagine being allowed to sleep on our couch rent-free and raid our fridge to this extent, and there's an incredibly deep cultural and political lineage connection there. Even with all that, if the UK had its hooks in this deep there'd be some outrage. "Didn't we throw the British crown out 250 years ago?"

Though I do have to say: there should also be more outrage at the influence of Saudi Arabia. But that one has an easy financial explanation. The net flow of cash is from SA to the US in exchange for influence and military support. In that case they're living on our couch and raiding the fridge but are paying rent for the privilege.

superxpro12 23 minutes ago | parent

Republicans cry "muh first amendment" whenever they can, and then buy entire news stations to censor the writers and editors.

Fascism in plain sight.

BLKNSLVR 6 minutes ago | parent

And ban from the white house the ones they haven't yet bought.

Not just in playing sight, but reveling in it like pigs in mud.

lovich 3 minutes ago | parent

Bari Weiss being out in charge of CBS and then immediately engaging in manipulation of the narrative isn’t helping me believe in one political factions screaming about censorship for me.

The Twitter files were just projection.

shrubble 46 minutes ago | parent

Media is hard to get right/proper, and tempering the profit motive with social strictures works when everyone is mostly in agreement (I mean inside the organization).

However when the divide is so contentious, essentially binary, appealing to only the profit motive is probably not going to get the desired results.