14 points bundie 1 hour ago 11 comments

bdangubic 1 hour ago | parent

He’s right, the countries that have lowest crime rates have flock cameras everywhere and zero privacy, this is the way /s

syntaxing 1 hour ago | parent

“ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

- Benjamin Franklin

verdverm 1 hour ago | parent

I'll take freedom and the cons that come with it. I doubt very much that crime-free is even possible, especially the oligarchy crimes

AngryData 1 hour ago | parent

Most common crime is wage theft, don't see how they are going to do anything about that.

xtajv 59 minutes ago | parent

Infringing on 4th amendment rights sounds like a crime to me.

al_borland 55 minutes ago | parent

Or just keep the people in jail who are committing most of the crime. When someone has been arrested a dozen times, we don’t need cameras tracking them to keep people safe, we need that person removed from polite society.

Flock is a poor solution to a failure of the judicial system.

Dezvous 28 minutes ago | parent

We need to solve the root of why crimes happen in the first place to make any difference, not just arrest people for committing crimes.

silverFork 51 minutes ago | parent

Well there are many issues and that is ownership and who gets to see the data and who gets to delete the data. If it is ever going to work, the ownership has to be public and not private. The videos should be impossible to delete.. The camera spread should be the same everywhere and would collect data non-selectively and only in public spaces. The data could only become visible to viewers only if certain criteria's are met and not continuous.

fnordpiglet 36 minutes ago | parent

Wait, we’ve already given away our privacy. Where’s our crime free society?

joshAg 30 minutes ago | parent

cool. I don't want a crime-free society. It's not that I want crime, it's that at a certain point I'd rather allocate government attention/money/time at issues other than crime because the benefit to that other thing is greater than getting crime asymptotically closer to 0.

Woodi 27 minutes ago | parent

Somehow "Minority Raport" was about crime... And stupidity build into oversight system.

And under eg. communism where oversight is balooned to society self-harm you still have crime. And "bribery" is alias for communism and other dictatorships.

So, it is just better to give up on Flock spy[hard]ware.