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DeepSeek: DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017

153 points theanonymousone 2 hours ago 22 comments

Onavo 1 hour ago | parent

Performance charts and benchmarks are here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepSeek/comments/1x84wke/deepseek_...

randomblock1 1 hour ago | parent

Other discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50129045

risphere 1 hour ago | parent

The native web search api is 10x cheaper than OpenAIs. I hope they will release the web search api as a standalone API.

alex-moon 56 minutes ago | parent

I may be missing something so apologies if I'm telling you something you already know but: there are plenty of web search APIs for agents - the Brave one is the one I use: https://brave.com/search/api/

mmmmbbbhb 37 minutes ago | parent

Tavily one is free, too. Easy to use cli with a skill.

ytxm 21 minutes ago | parent

I gave it a kick and got mixed results. For example, searching for a Microsoft product couldn't find its landing page, and searching for a niche open source package landed in the Debian repos for the top hits, but the home page was in the first 10 hits.

Lovely to see they're doing their own search though, I love how many folk are actively working on search clones at the moment.

hmontazeri 49 minutes ago | parent

My favorite model just got better. Gotta love what deepseek is doing

olavgg 46 minutes ago | parent

I really like the having DeepSeek Flash + Opus 5.5 as advisor/reviewer at the moment. I run through a $200 Claude Code subscription in less than 24 hours now just for a single project, and I hate fiddling with different accounts every day. Now that I get a 200 USD api credits inlcuded with the subscriptions I have rewritten my coding agent workflow completely.

rpastuszak 30 minutes ago | parent

> I run through a $200 Claude Code subscription in less than 24 hours now just for a single project

How?

fahrvrgnugen 25 minutes ago | parent

Loading tons of MCPs and never compacting

hugodan 19 minutes ago | parent

not reviewing its ongoing work and spawning subagents that end up looping each other

ramigb 17 minutes ago | parent

I swear I have the same question in my head always when I read such statements! I have never once reached 90% that includes everyday usage across multiple repos, artefact generation, device debugging, long running harness work!

I am not saying OP is not telling the truth. I just really want to understand!

pheggs 7 minutes ago | parent

in my experience there's a huge difference in token usage when creating new projects versus working on existing ones

olavgg 11 minutes ago | parent

Its easy when you spawn a couple of subagents in a homelab with a rack with 5+ servers.

This is how one of my claude code session looks like right now, one prompt from yesterday:

  ◯ lean-tracks  ▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  7/12 · 18h35m · ↓ 3.1m tokens
  ◯ lean-tracks  ▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  6/10 · 17h47m · ↓ 2.6m tokens
  ◯ lean-tracks  ▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  0/1 · 4h49m · ↓ 275.9k tokens
  ◯ lean-tracks  ▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  0/1 · 4h30m · ↓ 395.0k tokens
 ◯ lean-tracks  ▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱  0/1 · 3h50m · ↓ 490.3k tokens

TomGarden 9 minutes ago | parent

Not OP, but I used to run out in a few days, for me it was a matter of suboptimal code review practices with many subagents looking at different aspects, often expanded to look at more than the diff.

thomasmarcelis 26 minutes ago | parent

Interesting, coming from a similar situation, I'm interested what workflow you landed on. Opus planning + available to be called for deep thinking + opus reviwer? or?

nickludlam 36 minutes ago | parent

This and (the not quite yet open) Kimi K2.8 are my main coding engines, and I find them incredibly cost efficient. I find Deepseek in particular is really good with Svelte work.

Right now I use each of them in their own respective coding harnesses, deepseek-harness and kimi-code, but I do wonder what they are like inside something like opencode.

epolanski 10 minutes ago | parent

Is it already updated to the newest version on Opencode?

epolanski 7 minutes ago | parent

By far my favorite model.

At the beginning of the month I realized I had more tokens and more capabilities on Opencode at 8$/month via DS 4.1 flash, than I had on a 200$ account in June with the american providers.

Literally both more tokens and capabilities than Opus 4.8/GPT 5.5.

Even if you pay per token, you're still unlikely to outspend american providers.