24 points dmayle 5 hours ago 21 comments
I've been at software engineering for about 44 years now... Grew up with it, which was unusual when I started, and I was always good about getting into the zone and doing things. The career started small, small company, then back office, the dot com startups, then smaller companies again after the bust, a non-profit, and eventually YouTube (Google at the time, but just barely) and Meta (just Facebook when I was there).
When I hit the startups, and later big tech, it was no longer enough to just be an engineer, to have drive, to be good, you had to be organized, you had to follow through, get stuff done, and that's where the task systems started. Twenty-five over the years (and yes, I've actually counted), from Moleskine notebooks with Getting Things Done, evernote (remember evernote?), bug trackers, todoist, asana, google keep, among others.
When I managed on the Facebook News Feed, I got into gantt charts (for me and my team), spreadsheets, OmniPlan... I remember apologizing to my director for being so disorganized (because I felt I was making a mess of it), and he told me that I was the most organized engineer he knew.
That was because I was doing all of the work in the background, the trimming, the sorting, the reviews, but it was just so much work. Which was why I changed from system to system. Each time it built up, and I had to spend more time looking at things I couldn't or didn't get done, when I was rushed and couldn't put time into today's review, it would pile up, and then using it was so much work that I would start taking mini-notes, just emailing myself a few things to do the next day.
That's actually the thesis of the app (but not where it started), that if I could just have a few things to do emailed to me each day, I could get it done.
This app actually started when I described my previous startup failures into a Claude web session, and it repeated back to me what I had just said. My previous failures were because I spent too much time building the stuff I needed, and not building what I was supposed to be building.
I decided that the app would email me three things to do every day (which matches best practices for attention), but that the day was always yours to decide. We won't overload you, but you can add more, if you're feeling up to it, or cut back, and we never shame and try our best not to nag (I often only finish two). If we get it wrong, you can tell us, and we'll re-rank it once a day, or you can set it manually, and if you do, we never override that choice. The web app is live, and native for both platforms is coming. In the meantime, on Android, you can use gestures to quick launch into the voice input so saving a task is only a gesture away (e.g. double-tap the back of a Pixel, double-press the power button on Motorola).
Now let's talk about the dirty parts. I used AI to help me build this. Anthropic models mostly, and the brains of the app come from Anthropic models (I like the quality, I like the privacy, absolutely no training on customer data, and the stance of the company). This app is not some one-shot wonder where I asked frontier models to build a task system and then I put it on a server to show you.
I have prompts for the various features (e.g. ranking, generating suggestions, task extractions), I have eval sets of task lists (not anyone's real tasks, but constructed from patterns in my tasks, or the tasks of testers who allowed me to fix the problems they were having), with the three I expect to come out. I store the eval outputs, and re-test whenever I add a new rule to a prompt, or whenever testing a new model version. The great thing about having this eval set is that it catches when I get it wrong. When I introspect a failed run, sometimes it's because I need to tune a prompt, but sometimes it's because I missed something in my own ranking.
I did the same thing with my infrastructure as well, so this time, instead of setting up servers, and building login systems, and managing databases, I built on Vercel (git push to serving Next.js), Neon (hosted postgres).
I started getting emails mailed to me by mid-June, but started getting usable suggestions on June 26, and I've been using it every morning since. I wanted it to be easy to get started, and easy to use, so the input handles mess (you can add multiple tasks in the same run-on sentence, and a friend who helped me test it just pasted his entire obsidian todo list in wholesale to get started).
I wanted to make sure that anyone could try it out, so I built a trial feature that uses the real in-app ranking with a list of items you provide.
If you want to try the service, there's a free 14-day trial (card required), and then it's $99/year or $9.99/month after that (plus sales tax). We warn you seven days before your card is charged and if you cancel, you keep access through the term (either the trial, or our last paid period). Online, through settings -> billing, no email, no call.
I really hope you'll try it out. If you do, please tell me if we did a good job picking out your day.
cjimesh 5 hours ago | parent
Any plans to open source the harness/skill?
dmayle 4 hours ago | parent
If you use it, your list goes to Anthropic to be ranked, under commercial terms that exclude training on it, and I never look at it (I've built support tools to help customers, but they won't access user data unless the user opens a support case, and then explicitly grants access for a temporary time). It isn't open source, but you can export everything at any time as plain text or JSON.
I also get the company concerns... When I was at Google, there were strict rules, and I used buganizer (among other internal systems), but even at Google there were external companies that were trusted with this kind of data once they'd been reviewed (for example, I used asana while I was at Google).
stylicode 1 hour ago | parent
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dmayle 31 minutes ago | parent
In order to have a system doing the weighing, and the choices, there needs to be something that looks at the list, however, and end-to-end encryption would stop that cold. That's why it had to be on terms that meant no training off of your tasks, and no sales of your data, period. (It's in the terms) . There is audio, but that's so much of a privacy issue that we don't ship it to the servers, ever. It's stored locally on your device, so you can export it, or play it back if it's useful.
There is no self-hosted version of this that I could build and maintain. Other than the trust issue, what changes would a self-hosted version bring for you? Local models only?
harshalizee 1 hour ago | parent
Meanwhile, an AI subscription starts at $20/month and you can vibe code your own version to suit your preferences and free forever.
PcChip 1 hour ago | parent
dmayle 17 minutes ago | parent
In terms of the cost, I understand. I knew going into it that offering it as a subscription changes who will use it, and how many people will use it.
I didn't want to do ad-supported because you distracting just while you're thinking about what or how to do something ruins the usability, and ad revenue is not something that could cover the ongoing AI cost for this.
On the other hand, for someone who really liked it, I'd be really interested in your feedback. If you go through the signup, and then immediately cancel in billing, you'll still get the two weeks for free, and then you can see whether there's enough value for the price to be reasonable. You can export your data as many times as you like, and after you've cancelled, you can delete your account, and its data.
dmayle 53 minutes ago | parent
...and I get the idea that you can vibe-code a very polished looking version of something, and I think that's going to change software development in ways we haven't thought of yet. I think open-source becomes viable with an audience of only one person now, the true long tail.
However, just like you can already see older open source projects, the immediate value pales when compared to long term activity, and one-off projects die fast. (And I've built one-off task management tools for myself before).
I think the real value here is in having something that does all of the work, and without you having to spend your time on it. Just as I'm using Vercel so that I don't have to manage build systems and servers, and Neon so that I don't have to manage a database, I am using this so I don't have to manage my task list.
tra3 56 minutes ago | parent
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RGS1811 32 minutes ago | parent
Much less ambitious than what 3anddone is trying to do. But If you’re interested, check it out. It’s called “Grask”.
F7F7F7 10 minutes ago | parent