29 points dsmurrell 17 hours ago 13 comments

Hi all

I was pretty terrible at singing, now I’d say I’m bad but not terrible. This is because I’ve been using a singing app (won’t name it here) that scores me on my pitch and timing throughout the song so that I can improve.

Lately however, the app I’ve been using has flooded their song list with songs that aren’t originals. I didn’t like this at all as for me, it’s easier to try to improve when you’re singing along to the original.

So, I asked an agent (Claude Code) if it could write some code to listen to Spotify and also listen to me and see if it could detect both pitches and score me. It impressed me by writing some Python and showing me my pitch in the terminal!

It couldn’t go all the way though and detect the singer’s pitch in real time.

So I found the next best setup and built OnKey, a Mac app that needs to listen to the song once (it doesn’t save it) and then when it’s learnt the song (takes a couple of minutes), you can sing along to the pitch track that it’s learnt. OnKey is free to use and open source under the MIT license.

It can listen to Spotify, Apple Music, and YouTube playing in your browser with the right permissions.

During the build I found that someone had done something similar in Nightingale, but this requires a library of songs exported to disk and who has this in 2026 (maybe some of you ;) - but we need to help the normies too).

You can check out a demo video on the site of me singing (warning given) here: https://singonkey.app

The app sends out to find the song info (short Shazam fingerprint, and looks up song details), lyrics (from LRCLIB), and checks for updates.

The app never sends the music (it doesn’t save this to disk) and your voice. Everything you’d expect to stay private does.

It’s still weak in a few places:

- when the song’s backing is noisy it’s hard to pick the pitch track out

- sometimes it gets a note an octave off

- it’s limited to Apple Silicon Macs, M1 or later, and only macOS 14.2 up because extra drivers aren’t required past this point

- the scoring is built for beginners like me so it’s fairly easy on you

Would love for people to try it out and let me know what works and what doesn’t for them!

HummingBirdGif 13 hours ago | parent

How are you detecting pitch?

dsmurrell 12 hours ago | parent

For the user's pitch OnKey uses CREPE-tiny (https://github.com/marl/crepe) but ported to Rust with the model running on ONNX Runtime. For the singer's pitch also CREPE but the full version.

The vocal separation for the song uses UVR: https://github.com/Anjok07/ultimatevocalremovergui

You can find more details here: https://singonkey.app/docs/how-it-works

wnissen 8 hours ago | parent

What a fun idea! I love that the song doesn't have to be programmed in by the developer. Will give it a try.

Have you played the Rock Band and similar "rhythm games" that were all the rage in the Wii era? I don't know that it helped my singing per se but gave some incentive to practice.

In case anyone is interested, you can test your relative pitch perception (as opposed to producing the pitch) in this excellent Yale site: https://www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/td I got 15th [sic] percentile!

dsmurrell 1 hour ago | parent

Not played Rock Band myself only some Guitar Hero.

https://www.themusiclab.org looks cool, I'll give it a try today when I get a chance.

nopurpose 54 minutes ago | parent

Didn't know that external apps can interact with Youtube in a tab in Safari.

Looks nice, I sing so badly that I never dare to try if not alone. Maybe this app will help me to improve just little that I can sing along happy birthday quietrly in a corner without anyone turning heads.

dsmurrell 48 minutes ago | parent

> I never dare to try if not alone

Yes, this was me. My confidence has improved through practise to a point where it only half killed me to post that demo video. My family still ask me to relocate when I'm doing this around them... so I think you can hit the pitches and still not sound amazing.

Unfortunately, the way it works, and to avoid any copyright issues, it can't really operate on phones because you can't listen to other apps on them. Maybe the only way is to share your learnt pitch tracks (trained on the laptop) with a mobile companion app.

manlymuppet 44 minutes ago | parent

The main demo video uses the Red Hot Chilli Peppers as an example. A singing app, for learning to sing, and Anthony Kiedis used as the model.

Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Anthony Kiedis.

It's like if you had let Shaquille O'Neal teach you how to shoot threes.

manlymuppet 42 minutes ago | parent

I now realize this comment may read much more mean-spirted than I intended--not my intention!

This is a great and cool app. I am just joking. Sorry to be an ass.

dsmurrell 40 minutes ago | parent

Not at all! It's accurate :)

I'd definitely still let Shaquille O'Neal show me how to shoot threes. Dunking on the other hand could be an issue.

dsmurrell 41 minutes ago | parent

Yes, I got this from a friend... "Lol, I could t tell the difference between you and Tony Kiedis!"

I'm terrible at detecting sarcasm usually, but this one was easy for me.

mkesper 37 minutes ago | parent

This is a great learning tool! I wish I could use it on Linux. :)

dsmurrell 34 minutes ago | parent

Noted, I haven't done a feasibility test yet, but I do have an issue up here to vote on: https://github.com/dsmurrell/onkey/issues

It's got 3 thumbs up but no indication of which OS they're from... maybe I need two issues.

pheraph 6 minutes ago | parent

I think my daughter will love this. How about some simple gamification mechanism? A score or a star rating on how well you performed, maybe combined with a difficulty level?