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New 'Circadian' Subtype of Depression Affecting 1 in 4 Patients

57 points gmays 4 days ago 25 comments

Aozora7 2 hours ago | parent

I'm probably immune to this because my circadian rhythm disorder (N24) jetlags me by one hour every day.

wow_Something 1 hour ago | parent

"new" : ))

srvo 1 hour ago | parent

im tagged in this image and i don't like it

zombocomvibes 1 hour ago | parent

I wonder what the specific recommendations for light therapy and melatonin are.

Melatonic 1 hour ago | parent

I would guess intense bright light in the morning and ideally exposure to peak day UVB on the skin (can be brief)

ZenoArrows 46 minutes ago | parent

Peak UVB only helps with getting skin cancer.

sznio 1 hour ago | parent

the world finally realizes that 1 in 4 people are actually saying the truth, not being lazy

I recently started a new job that forced me to wake up at 6:30AM and it was fucking misery. last weekend though was the DST change, effectively shifting everything one hour forward and oh god I finally feel alive and capable of doing anything but sleeping

dizhn 1 hour ago | parent

I am so sick or "normal" types whose only argument is that "it's like that". Of course you can't wake up in the morning because you go to sleep late. How come even when I skip a night I still can't sleep Einstein? And this normalness only lasts until their own thing that is not the same as the society.

kvam 1 hour ago | parent

> For someone with circadian depression, their symptoms will change with the seasons, due to the shifting day lengths.

Most if not all Norwegians know this phenomena. Winter depression is considered a normal occurrence, starting right around this time of year.

birdsongs 1 hour ago | parent

Hitting me right now with the time change, and pitch dark at 6pm. It changes so fast every year.

chrisvalleybay 54 minutes ago | parent

I've started using SAD-lamps for this exact reason. I've used it every day from october-april for 2 years and it has benefitted me a lot. I don't feel as bad through winter anymore.

gizajob 17 minutes ago | parent

I’m from northern England. Which is why I’m hiking in Sicily right now.

lifeisloving 15 minutes ago | parent

Happiest two years of my life were in Norway. Summers were way harder imo for circadian rhythm than winters.

dizhn 1 hour ago | parent

It's not surprising to self diagnose with every new type of neuro issue of course (in the hopes that it will lead to some relief) but I do "like" this for myself. I refused the melatonin recently because it didn't do anything for me the last time but maybe I will try it again.

SoMomentary 32 minutes ago | parent

I've found I prefer time release melatonin as personally I can fall asleep initially but often wake up in a few hours and then can't get back to sleep.

Some other melatonin sleep aids give me the most vivid nightmares, so I definitely think it can be worth trying a couple different options.

Levitating 1 hour ago | parent

Huh this kind of resonates with me. In high school I used to be chronically tired and would sleep any chance I got. Doctor really didn't know what to do with it. As a student I have little time constraints and my sleep schedule just drifts all over the place, I woke up at 4am today.

feverzsj 1 hour ago | parent

Sounds just like average people suffering daily life.

ZenoArrows 45 minutes ago | parent

Yeah people with depression should just get over it /s

extraextra 48 minutes ago | parent

Breaking News - new study finds that people should get out in the sun, touch grass and do physical activity

In all seriousness, mornings are dreadful while in the evenings I feel like I can conquer the world, funny system I've got

ioulian 19 minutes ago | parent

Same here, I'm so awake after 10... But my kids get up at 6-7 in the morning so I need to change my sleep schedule. Also, everything is designed for early risers, breakfast in hotel, from 6-9. But when I'm on vacation, I sleep till 9.

Same with work, getting to the office at 7 is fine, at 10 is frowned upon.

What helps is circadian lighting, I have homeassistant and it changes the color temperature of my ikea smart lights to yellow in the evening, and white during the day. The yellow lights prepare me for the sleep.

hluska 10 minutes ago | parent

Your little ‘breaking news’ intro is neither funny nor even remotely accurate. Do you always discredit research without even reading articles?

anal_reactor 42 minutes ago | parent

I spent a year not having any responsibilities. My sleep shifted, and was 04:00 - 13:00. My dream is to retire so that I can finally fucking sleep the way I want.

account42 27 minutes ago | parent

Breaking news: Scientists discover night owls and how modern society enforces destructive day/night cycles on them.

modo_mario 7 minutes ago | parent

I'll add somewhat of a counterpoint.

I've been somewhat of a nightowl my entire life. I thought that was just how i was and it was in my genetics. There's also some correlation with adhd there according to some studies.

However i managed to be a morning person without strain when i wasn't working for a while and decided to focus on not letting too much light in my eyes in the evening, didn't drink much coffee and went for morning jogs.

It felt like without strain i woke up automatically in the morning and was a real eyeopener.

Sadly it's still a modern society issues feels hard to avoid screens when i have to work and do so much else during the day. Also big seasonal light changes at this lattitude means morning jogs would be in the dark right now if they have to precede work.

hluska 7 minutes ago | parent

Here is the actual journal article:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-...