38 points luu 3 hours ago 45 comments
rob-olmos 2 hours ago | parent
TedDoesntTalk 2 hours ago | parent
kccqzy 1 hour ago | parent
jerlam 1 hour ago | parent
bradknowles 24 minutes ago | parent
Where I need extra help is with VOCs in certain locations. Like, in or near bathrooms. Or the cat litter boxes. IQAir does sell their GC line for that, and we have a couple of those. But the activated carbon filter media is super expensive. And these things are huge. Like, bigger than a dorm refrigerator.
So, I welcome an alternative that does VOCs well.
gopalv 1 hour ago | parent
I got one during Santa Cruz wildfires in 2020 and now the kids have a pavlovian reflex to sleep once that gets turned on.
Ikea makes an air-purifier table, which is a end-run around it being a useless box in the room when switched off.
It's fairly expensive, not as good as a purpose built one, but it blends into the average room pretty well.
encom 1 hour ago | parent
>removes smoke and infectious particles
Where do people live that they need to remove such things, 18th century London?
yodon 1 hour ago | parent
SF Bay Area during the summer fires of a few years ago
grandpajoey 1 hour ago | parent
helterskelter2 1 hour ago | parent
jerlam 1 hour ago | parent
Wind blows smoke around. There are currently fires in northern Michigan that are affecting the air quality in Chicago, which is 350+ miles away.
fellowniusmonk 1 hour ago | parent
My allergies became generally better at all hours just from sleeping in super cleaned air.
Why? Reducing baseline inflammation perhapse? Maybe decreased inflammation during sleep helps too, improved breathing? idk. Whatever it is this organism seems to prefer it.
Even when exposed to allergens during the day the run up to sneezing is much slower or doesn't happen.
yread 1 hour ago | parent
alnwlsn 41 minutes ago | parent
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wildfire_smoke_Wyand...
It just looks like fog, but it is smoke, and the sky has an unusual orange color. Smells and tastes like you are standing in the path of a campfire, but you can't move out of the way. It irritates your eyes and throat if you spend more than 20 mins out there. You can go inside, but if the building you are in is leaky, it will smell like smoke inside there too.
The actual fire was hundreds of miles away. You can try driving in any direction for hours and not be clear of the smoke. Still, compared to other areas, this is barely worth complaining about.
dekhn 1 hour ago | parent
mfkp 1 hour ago | parent
LTL_FTC 1 hour ago | parent
jerlam 1 hour ago | parent
kube-system 1 hour ago | parent
schiffern 50 minutes ago | parent
>Of course, the problem with this is you are just spending more money on filters, which is the expensive part.
For up-front cost, this is true.For cost over time, twice the filters means twice the replacement interval, so the additional filter cost cancels out.
schiffern 55 minutes ago | parent
The trick is to use high-airflow MERV 13 filters (ideally 3M 1900, which has high pleat count and low resistance) instead of high-resistance HEPA filters, so axial PC fans can generate enough pressure.
bradknowles 35 minutes ago | parent
gpm 20 minutes ago | parent
For a standalone air filter which is pushing the filtered air into the same room its drawing from, we can assume reasonably good mixing of the intake and exhaust air. Thus to be equivalent to a HEPA-filter it only needs 1/3rd more airflow... Which really isn't much.
This doesn't follow for a a fancier setup where you're taking dirty air and blowing it into a cleanroom or something... but that's not how we're typically using household air filters.
mattlondon 16 minutes ago | parent
turtlebits 1 hour ago | parent
I prefer having quiet air filters that I can run all day (based on air quality) instead of noisy ones I only use at night.
kube-system 1 hour ago | parent
alistairSH 1 hour ago | parent
I have one in the bedroom. On low, I barely hear it during the day (extra ambient noise from outside) but at night the white-noise is subtle but effective. That said, I don't like "loud" white noise, just a quiet hum.
schiffern 45 minutes ago | parent
Housefresh, which is a criminally underrated review channel btw, recently did a comparison of PC fans for this purpose. The Thermalright TL-14C family came out strong in the "Silent" category, with the best ultra-quiet 24/7 fan speed performance. This comes at the cost of slightly worse max speed CADR vs the venerable Arctic P14.
bradknowles 27 minutes ago | parent
I still haven’t seen anything else that can compare to IQAir HyperHEPA filters. They use these things in hospitals.
senderista 1 hour ago | parent
simonbuilds 30 minutes ago | parent
brokensegue 48 minutes ago | parent
paimapi 37 minutes ago | parent
jsLavaGoat 34 minutes ago | parent
alephnerd 28 minutes ago | parent
wolvoleo 25 minutes ago | parent
For sleeping I prefer rain sounds though
arjie 21 minutes ago | parent
PM2.5: 2.6 µg/m³
PM10: 0.5 µg/m³
VOC index: ~97
CO₂: ~505 ppm
That's the baseline. When we're cooking, like now, it's: PM2.5: 10.8 µg/m³ (AQI ~46)
PM10: 17.5 µg/m³
VOC index: 122
CO₂: 572 ppm
None of those seem particularly concerning. We have a gas range, and 15 min past the end of cooking everything is fine. I must imagine that most people don't live right next to the freeway so they probably have even better air quality except during wildfire season.settsu 6 minutes ago | parent
I grasp that such an approach might draw unfiltered surrounding air along with the filtered stream of air, and imagine that it would likely be easily overwhelmed by a steady supply of exceptionally polluted air (wildfire smoke or simply a heavily polluted urban area), but I still would be interested in knowing if the compromise never overcomes a level of placebo effect, or if there's a point where it actually achieves measurable benefit (both in efficacy and portability—like a even more compact and directional version of the Corsi-Rosenthal computer fan solution.)