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Hacker reverses Samsung TV, finds on-board AI listening OpenAI account suspended

83 points testing22321 2 hours ago 13 comments

ada-h00k 1 hour ago | parent

If OpenAI really banned him for that reason, that would be pretty stupid. If you can no longer use an LLM for reverse engineering without worrying about your account, that drastically reduces its value.

tintor 56 minutes ago | parent

This looks very bad on OpenAI.

What is next? Power and water company suspending your account if your home and car are not streaming enough telemetry.

I am glad that open models are closing on frontier.

technion 39 minutes ago | parent

Claude is absurdly sensitive to anything that touches cyber, and threatens bans if it gets a whiff of a pentest going on. it wouldnt surprise me if openai had a similar approach.

Yesterday I joked that claude gave me a cyber stop for asking how to make the anime girl video for an exploit, but it was a thing that happened. Meanwhile im trying to convince people around me that having grok nudify people isnt "fine" just because grok says it is. Its wild where the lines a drawn.

3abiton 56 minutes ago | parent

This is again will be very funny race to watch. Right now you can fairly do lots of reverse enginnering or "hacking" with off the shelf Chinese models, and they are very capable (GLM3 for example) which can be run locally if you stomach the hardware. Tools like rea are also becoming more popular. If openai continues to be pedantic, they will lose the technical base given how close is the gap getting.

kmac_ 8 minutes ago | parent

The company I work for has a plan B to switch to alternative, self-hosted models if providers pull off strange moves, such as drastic pricing changes. We have already switched from one provider to another once, and we do not want to get burned again. We do not reverse engineer, just regular development.

Hugsun 55 minutes ago | parent

I'm curious if someone has started cataloging these cases. These spying TVs seem like a common industry practice.

jeeva 44 minutes ago | parent

I believe GamersNexus were talking about doing more exhaustive testing across different brands after their video on LG models specifically.

tkel 53 minutes ago | parent

from his twitter account:

> if your samsung TV model doesnt have a microphone, it will look for connected devices with one, such as a soundbar or a connected bluetooth device. this gets shipped off to bixby.

throwa356262 31 minutes ago | parent

Is this not the expected function when you use bixby?

(Not saying people should use bixby mind you)

luma 49 minutes ago | parent

Dog bark and baby crying detection are advertised features for SmartThings integrations. Door bell and door knocking are also included, this is surfaced directly if you hook the TV or sound bar into SmartThings.

Den_VR 47 minutes ago | parent

The tile references on-board ai. “On-board ai” here is automatic content recognition. Imagine my disappointment

znpy 12 minutes ago | parent

so glad i bought a dumb tv.

i remember going store to store in search of one.

gg me, that was a smart move.

kjsingh 12 minutes ago | parent

so is the hardware mic-off button on Samsung TV any good?