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This is very similar to how I feel programming.

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Lex Fridman recent podcast on the AI crisis in math, https://youtu.be/ZAzWPE9CItg

About two years ago, I was at a coffee shop and two maths students were trying to understand a concept in the book. I suggested they might ask a language model to help them understand it. They scoffed at me, called a stochastic parrot, and said they can't do math at all.

I responded with, "Well, you don't even need it to do math. It can explain the concept." They scoffed again. "Those things are useless toys"

It’s funny how disconnected we all are from each other. This is exactly how LLMs felt a year or so to many programmers.

Useless toys, sometimes useful toys, ok good toys, ok.. we might have to look at this more carefully, oh god.

This loop however is quite tiring to watch happen over and over again. Is there really nothing we can do but just watch from the sidelines and watch our fellow men engage in their particular grief and copium filled mourning cycle?

Point 19, right in the feels :(

The overselling of AI abilities is doing such a disservice to society right now. These companies don’t want to acknowledge how much human collaboration is going into their AI’s achievements because it undermines their value proposition, but I imagine there’s still quite a fair amount going into it and that’s one reason why OpenAI still won’t provide session traces of their models solving open math problems. If they were more transparent about it I think we’d see that human guidance, vision, judgement, taste, and other traits are still highly valuable and complimentary to AI abilities. It should also be a huge red flag how little of any of this output has been formally verified by third parties. I do think AI will eventually do all the things people believe it’s already doing, but I suspect there’s a fair amount of mechanical turking going on behind the scenes as you’d expect any company trying to raise a trillion dollar public offering might do.

"If you just waited a year, would some other AI produce that same proof independently?"

I had a conversation about this very problem last November, with a visiting mathematician. It's essentially signaling a deflationary spiral in intellectual work: why bother doing the work now, when it will take half as much effort a year from now?

This is perhaps always a possible stance, but it's exacerbated when some proportion of your own agency is handed over to, well, agents.