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Prospero: A new coding harness for a more civilized age

87 points fovc 3 hours ago 60 comments

BewareTheYiga 2 hours ago | parent

I like how this is laid out. Will have to give it a try.

thehamkercat 2 hours ago | parent

So much efficient use of space though, would love to have this UI on top of opencode/codex

App-server protocol: https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app-server

Opencode: https://opencode.ai/docs/server/

eric15342335 2 hours ago | parent

How does this compare with Zed though?

keepo404 2 hours ago | parent

Looks like shit and part with professional edition killed me. Bro are we in 2000?

jrm4 1 hour ago | parent

I had just about the opposite reaction. As in "hey are we in 2000? nice!" Like back when you couldn't much afford to have stupid bloat and there was much better attention paid to "just do the thing and nothing else?"

Can't wait to try it.

devmor 1 hour ago | parent

What a beautiful and space efficient UI. I love Dear ImGUI and the people that build interfaces with it.

Reading through the whole post, this sounds like an thoughtfully and intentionally designed product. One with strong opinions and the developer’s real lessons behind it. In the current era of slopware- especially around AI tooling - this is giving me damn near an emotional reaction. I am happy to see this.

lifeisloving 1 hour ago | parent

>Prospero is a native GUI application for Windows, macOS, and Linux

But right above this statement, on the Professional Edition purchase page, it says its only for Windows and Mac..

HexDecOctBin 1 hour ago | parent

No binary distribution for Linux, I suppose. Although maybe skeeto might want to ensure that it works with Wine.

jrm4 1 hour ago | parent

Yup. Looks like I'll have to build from source. Which used to be perhaps a deal killer, but now I'll just get gemini to walk me through it. :)

laughing_snyder 33 minutes ago | parent

The binary is right here https://github.com/skeeto/prospero/releases/tag/v0.9.0

post-it 1 hour ago | parent

> (You can’t use your Claude subscription.)

How come?

thih9 1 hour ago | parent

You’d need to use Claude API pricing (pay as you go, not a subscription).

post-it 1 hour ago | parent

No you don't, Claude subscriptions allow headless use (either via claude -p or by wrapping the session) for personal use.

T3 does it this way.

indymike 1 hour ago | parent

The Claude subscription does not include Claude API usage.

Claude behaves in Claude Code somewhat differently vs other coding harnesses (sometimes it's a remarkable improvement) connected directly via api. Also, it cost more than the subscription. There's quite a bit of baked in tooling and assumptions in Claude code that may be good for you, or unhelpful based on what you are doing.

neuronexmachina 1 hour ago | parent

Minor correction: the $20 Claude subscription doesn't include API usage, but the $100 and $200 subscriptions include a corresponding amount of monthly API credits.

smashed 1 hour ago | parent

Anthropic only authorizes their own Claude code to be used with a subsidized subscription.

They want you to use and get accustomed to only their own tools. If other coding harnesses were allowed, it's far too easy to switch providers.

They can't allow that, because they only have a few months of head start.

So everyone accepts Claude code which is required for these sweet subsidized tokens.

well_ackshually 1 hour ago | parent

That is old. Every harness (herdr, paseo, pi, etc) uses claude through the Agent SDK, and this draws from your subscription, not API pricing. If you're thinking of going with the "but Anthropic could ban every user doing this", if it's good enough for Google to slap it in Android Studio for everyone to use, it's good enough for you in literally any other harness.

bendowlingdev 45 minutes ago | parent

I dont think you know what a harness is.

smashed 35 minutes ago | parent

Google has an agreement with Anthropic for the usage inside Android Studio.

> Unless previously approved, Anthropic does not allow third party developers to offer claude.ai login [..] for their products.

ref: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/agent-sdk.md

Yes there is a huge gray area. Yes people are getting away with it. That does not mean it's allowed. Anthropic could clarify their terms any day and they don't, on purpose.

post-it 27 minutes ago | parent

Harnesses don't use claude.ai login, they use your `claude` binary.

Zambyte 18 minutes ago | parent

Herdr is a harness aware terminal multiplexer, not a harness itself.

smashed 1 hour ago | parent

First time I see a software licensed with the Unlicense.

I thought it meant the license was missing on GitHub but, no, it's an actual license called the Unlicense.

But then there is the Community and Pro edition so which is which on GitHub? Is the pro version hidden somewhere?

Plus a c++ code base in 2026. I think modern c++ can be made quite safe but I need some claims that it's taken seriously which I don't see.

I'm confused.

edit: I'm getting down voted here and no-one is telling me what I said wrong. These are my first impressions on the project. I think it's valuable feedback. Please reply and explain why I'm wrong instead of just down voting.

Jtarii 1 hour ago | parent

I don't think this project is for you then.

smashed 51 minutes ago | parent

I thought I was giving valuable feed back. There is something I'm missing here I guess.

OleksandrC 1 hour ago | parent

If you're looking for an agent implementation that is light on resources, but prefer to work in a terminal, consider also hax (https://usehax.dev/). Less than 2 MB fully static Linux binary, few MBs of RAM use in runtime. Works great with local models also (auto-detects config from running llama-server), besides the usual cloud providers.

vunderba 1 hour ago | parent

If you’re the creator of this harness, you should disclose that. I have nothing against self-promotion, it’s just considered good practice.

Some feedback but it might be worth calling out how your harness differs from other relatively light-weight ones like Pi. I assume its got a much smaller memory footprint given yours is C versus Pi's. There are so many agentic harnesses out there that a comparison table might be a nice thing to have on the landind page.

Note: Just to be clear, I'm not accusing you of trying to hide it, given that the GitHub account for Hax is basically identical to your HN account.

OleksandrC 37 minutes ago | parent

I am the author of hax, yes.

If you are familiar with pi, then some of the key features listed on the GitHub page (and website) already illustrate substantial differences: hax is much smaller in footprint (I wouldn't even call pi "light-weight", really - heavy js runtime with a lot of dependencies), hax preserves native terminal scrollback (pi uses alt-screen fullscreen, or clears in some cases in differential mode), hax uses normal XDG dirs (pi uses ~/.pi), hax is extended out-of-process (pi suggests in-process plugins).

There are other differences in presentation, and in features (for example, hax has background bash invocation out-of-the-box). Not practical to list all of them.

vunderba 29 minutes ago | parent

Thanks I'll have to set aside some time later to try it out. It's kind of a sliding scale, but pi is definitely lighter-weight when compared to harnesses like Opencode and the all-batteries included "Oh-My-Pi".

And of course, “lightweight” does have a lot of interpretations where harnesses are concerned (memory footprint, binary size, performance, system prompt, etc).

eleventen 51 minutes ago | parent

I don't understand the value proposition. It “works great for local models” (they all do) so you’ve got more RAM than you possibly need for any TUI you might want to run. Are people really fretting over a few MB of memory rather than evaluating these tools on their ergonomics and features?

Why would anyone aside from a C hobbiest want to use this? And what does terminal native even mean?

OleksandrC 33 minutes ago | parent

Typical coding agents of today consume hundreds of MBs of RAM. Once you add GUI into the mix, that could easily slip into GBs. You might feel the difference, when you're trying to fit a capable local model into small amount of local RAM.

Even on 64 GB RAM machines you could easily get memory pressure on the system when trying to work with a chonky local model. Consider also resource-constrained cases like small VPS servers or SBC computers (like Raspberry Pi).

Ergonomics and features are included too here. The point is that these can coexist with small resource footprint.

bensyverson 1 hour ago | parent

There are so many cool harnesses I could use if I didn't have an outrageously subsidized Claude subscription

thekuanysh 1 hour ago | parent

so what's the point? you can use claude sub.

mapontosevenths 1 hour ago | parent

Claude doesn't allow third party harnesses unless you pay the full API price. Attempting to avoid that by pretending to be Claude code gets your account banned. Google is the same and will ban your entire Google account.

AFAIK - Of the big three only OpenAI explicitly allows third party harnesses without paying exorbitant API rates. It's one of the primary reasons I still use them.

To avoid these problems some folks use tools like herdr which operate like tmux or via the SDK to drive the official harness, rather than speaking directly to the API routes.

NorthSouthNorth 1 hour ago | parent

They apparently rolled this decision back.

rbehrends 38 minutes ago | parent

What they rolled back was charging claude -p "..." and use of Claude Code as an ACP agent at API rates. But the use of OAuth2 authentication with their subscription plans still feels at least risky: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/legal-and-compliance#authent... (granted, the wording is anything but clear).

Whether and under what circumstances they actually enforce this these days, I do not know. Regardless, if your preferred harness does not support that authentication flow (which most don't), then it doesn't really help you even if you could. For what it's worth, I do not consider the Claude Code ACP adapter an adequate solution.

brandonhorst 1 hour ago | parent

This was true but no longer is

Rabbit504030201 29 minutes ago | parent

Try them anyway. Tell your employer about all the principles of freedoms that free, self hosted AI enable. It does not have to dwarf other costs.

Do not worry about vendor lock-in. Standing against big corporations was never easier in this century.

Do it. You know you can.

KetoManx64 4 minutes ago | parent

I just built my own tools and then just drive claude with 'claude -p' through them. Works great for controlling claude from my own android app.

khalic 1 hour ago | parent

magnus breaths heavily

zzunkie 1 hour ago | parent

A year ago I never felt my MacBook was short on resources, but these days I find myself thinking a lot about the performance of harnesses and agent tools.

brainless 1 hour ago | parent

Nice to see a gui coding agent. I use tui agents all the time but I am building a gui one. I use Claude Code, Codex, opencode and a couple other but I do not like the DX/UX.

I often want click a part of the wall of text (from agent) and search for related text, open them up on the side or so. I want to open a linked file. I want to answer multiple questions in an async manner, even come back and continue answering the next day.

There are many prompt level features I want too - orchestrate with subagents, but only the tasks I select - how do I select when there is no checkbox. Or maybe delegate a subagent to dig into (read only) one portion of the chat response. Maybe codify (write) only one task in a list of tasks. So many many other small things.

As a full-time user of coding agents, the TUI barely works for me. I think splitting text, searching in text, merging text are more important in agent driven development than ever before. It is all text, all the way. This is what I am building myself, with my own gui framework.

julesrms 54 minutes ago | parent

You're not alone - I also revolted against the TUI crowd and created my own GUI-centric harness juggler (https://github.com/juggler-ai/juggler). Might be up your street. If you're not too involved in your own project, maybe help out on mine :)

Honestly, I just don't get the TUI obsession, other than the fact that people are multiplexing many remote sessions over ssh. So my aim with juggler was to have an architecture that could do all the multi-client remote sessions with a GUI/websockets/Y.js sync etc.

brainless 38 minutes ago | parent

Thanks Julian, I just checked it and it looks lovely and ticks quite a few of the boxes in my mental model. I will clone and dig in.

Also, I don't remember how but I have heard of JUCE before and I immediately recognized it even though I have never used it. I think I spend too much time on github :D

johnny5211 26 minutes ago | parent

I see the argument but personally I find LLMs to be a perfect TUI application because of their functionality. Text in -> text out is precisely how the models work so the interface doesn't need to go much beyond that.

brainless 17 minutes ago | parent

I would agree 100% with you if context was not an issue. But it is and a big one. In a chat, I have questions and investigations that should always branch off. I also make tiny test implementations from an ongoing idea (in the chat). Forking the idea, or even running parallel ideas. None of these are possible unless we can manipulate the text, split into smaller chunks and send off to agents.

0xcafefood 14 minutes ago | parent

His GUI looks like it's inspired at least in part by Google's Antigravity 2 (https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-2).

brador 59 minutes ago | parent

Prospero was the original code name for the ps5 console that is recently jailbroken. That’s why you’re seeing a lot of other unrelated projects with this name too.

gapo 59 minutes ago | parent

As a counterpoint to a lot of the comments on this now portraying this as dated and questioning the stack behind - this is has the guts of great enterprise level software. Once you’ve serious data being thrown at something built on JS and run into OOMs, that’s when good old C(rust in the future maybe) stack shows these up.

Love to see such a strong tasteful take on software heralding back to the age of solid desktop apps.

ggsp 55 minutes ago | parent

Rust in the future? Excuse the flippancy but what is missing nowadays?

stickfigure 58 minutes ago | parent

There are so many Prosperos already. Why choose a name that is so heavily overloaded?

keyle 46 minutes ago | parent

Many make their own harness today anyway...

I did mine as well and that takes 4% the resources of opencode and in a similar tui style.

I think it's great and everyone should make their own.

julesrms 46 minutes ago | parent

Great to see what you're doing there, but speaking as a 30-year hardcore C++ veteran (to the extent of creating my own C++ GUI framework: https://juce.com)... When I was writing a code agent (https://github.com/juggler-ai/juggler), there's no way I'd have used C++ for an agent GUI!

Agent UIs are all markdown, HTML, big scrolling lists, text flow, unicode chars, and all the other stuff that C++ frameworks are terrible at, but which is a doddle in HTML/CSS/JS.. You are a brave man!

nico 37 minutes ago | parent

> and all the other stuff that C++ frameworks are terrible at, but which is a doddle in HTML/CSS/JS

This is very interesting. I know that coding string-related stuff with C/C++ can be incredibly tedious and error prone (even hard security-wise). But all the stuff in the web-related stacks/libraries in other languages, is either already somehow being transcompiled to C to execute, or could be relatively easily ported/reused by directing an LLM/agent to do it

Do you think that could work to make C/C++ better at this? What things would you import/copy from elsewhere?

joshheitzman 3 minutes ago | parent

I used the wxWidgets C++ GUI for my coding agent ( https://github.com/fluxmoot/fluximp ) not directly in C++ but in Python via wxPython. While wxWidgets doesn't have a full browser level implementation of HTML/CSS/JS it has enough HTML support for rendering markdown converted to HTML just fine. I'd imagine Qt would have no problem with markdown either.

Rabbit504030201 26 minutes ago | parent

I'd really like to see a comprehensive test of all of those 100s of agentic harnesses. Get a billionaire to give a million to crunch through them all within a week or so.

neuroelectron 20 minutes ago | parent

JavaScript is just about the worst thing ever and why would you use that as middleware for anything if you didn't have to? I mean, I get using Visual Studio Code, if you don't care about your business processes, intellectual property or engineers and are just outsourcing everything, but imagine actually trusting it for your coding stack like some kind of middle manager who only cares about cutting costs to the bone? Or like, you're riding the AI bubble and want to release some minimal viable product as fast as possible, but it's 2026 now. Covid was 6 years ago.

nabeards 16 minutes ago | parent

Nothing but snark in this comment. You can and should do better.

saejox 10 minutes ago | parent

i believe a harness is a personalized thing. everyone should develop their own. doesn't take long to have a working prototype, after that you can extend it as you use it.