23 points datavorous_ 1 hour ago 14 comments

xacky 56 minutes ago | parent

Demoscenes are a uniquely human endeavour.

Rendello 44 minutes ago | parent

Every time I see a person leading a model to specialize in a uniquely human endeavour, I think of the last lines of this stanza from Bob Dylan's It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding):

    Disillusioned words like bullets bark
    As human gods aim for their mark
    Make everything from toy guns that spark
    To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
    It’s easy to see without looking too far
    That not much is really sacred

p1anecrazy 44 minutes ago | parent

The post seems to refer to a very specific subset of demoscene:

> I came across Dwitter.net, which is like Twitter but for 140 character JavaScript demos. They already supported “remix”-ing any dweet so that we can build on top of them.

cowlevel 42 minutes ago | parent

The existence of LLMs is not the problem. The insane way they've been integrated into society is the problem. Back in 2020, GPT-2 was something novel you'd do random experiments with and something like this would've been cool. As long as it remains a silly experiment, it still is cool.

micromacrofoot 25 minutes ago | parent

you're absolutely right

cluckindan 25 minutes ago | parent

Delete this and all your work

cyclopeanutopia 22 minutes ago | parent

Fuck you and everything you do.

vapel 17 minutes ago | parent

Neat.

To me, demoscene was about embracing new technology and using it to express yourself.

It's enshrined now and so I find it to have served it's purpose. Look forward, not back.

InvisibleUp 16 minutes ago | parent

I think you misunderstand the point of the demoscene. It’s about mathematical prowess and the joy of puzzle-solving moreso than pretty pictures.

Appropriate uses for AI could be to trace the history of demoscene effects, or to explain how a particular scene works so you can understand it better. Nobody in the scene wants a magic box that solves the puzzle for them.

vapel 15 minutes ago | parent

I would wager that claiming it to hold one singular meaning for "everybody" is the misunderstanding.

cwmoore 7 minutes ago | parent

How much would you wager? And what’s the house advantage for the scare quotes?

I shouldn’t add to this mess.

I used to have a reasonable experience on HN.

Catloafdev 6 minutes ago | parent

They aren't referring to "everyone" they are referring to "the people in the demoscene" and they are correct.

grliga 6 minutes ago | parent

people were enjoying thoughtful conversations with a medium and this one brings an automated blackbox without any opinion and context

leptons 4 minutes ago | parent

>Here is an example, I traced back d/36555 from d/367547 which in turn is derived from d/36467.

slop. Dwitter is nowhere near approaching a count of d/367547