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Preparing for the Flipper One Kickstarter and opening pre-orders

109 points user_7832 1 hour ago 47 comments

https://docs.flipper.net/one

ipkstef 1 hour ago | parent

i have my og flipper gathering dust :tears:

thenthenthen 51 minutes ago | parent

Dust it off! It was a weird device, mostly a toy? This new one is… yeah not sure. More of the same?

internetter 32 minutes ago | parent

> It was a weird device, mostly a toy?

While I do agree it was/is weird, and it was/is hard to qualify, toy isn't the word I'd reach for. I find myself using it for some odd task once every few months. Cloning a keycard, temporarily standing in for a broken remote, etc. I'm glad I have it, but I was given it for free and I wouldn't pay for it.

pcurve_ 37 minutes ago | parent

same, I assumed it would have full support for nfc which is the protocol I care most about and ordered via kickstarter

only to find out nfc-b would never come

meh

Daniel_Van_Zant 1 hour ago | parent

I'm curious has anyone tried hooking up abliterated large language models to systems like this for physical pen-testing? I know there has been lots of hype lately on the capabilities of large language models at finding and exploiting bugs in online software. I know very little about physical pen-testing but would large language models also open up vulnerabilities in the kinds of things this interfaces with or do digital door locks and such have higher levels of security?

AndrewKemendo 1 hour ago | parent

I have one collecting dust that I stopped using years ago just because I got bored with it so if you wanna work together, I’m happy to. I’d love to see it get more use.

exe34 53 minutes ago | parent

I think the new one might be better as you can run an agent or server on it and get llm to use it. With the old one you had to push buttons as I understand it?

orsorna 27 minutes ago | parent

I was just researching and it appears you can communicate with the Zero over usb serial.

devmor 49 minutes ago | parent

I don't know about security devices specifically, but I have semi-successfully reverse engineered some abandoned IoT devices by giving DeepSeek and Claude access to a USB flash writer, logic analyzer and power relay for the devices.

I imagine they could be used to do physical pen testing just as easily. From my experience with digital door locks, their level of security is on average, somewhere between a piece of tape and a $5 padlock.

iugtmkbdfil834 42 minutes ago | parent

Lmfao, I am tempted to play with that. Did you write up any of those or all just random one-offs?

app134 21 minutes ago | parent

I pretty thoroughly reverse engineered the unitree Go2 robot dog with a benchtop mobo from a scrapped bot, a USB-TTL convertor, and Opus 4.6

Used the findings to release a jailbreak so you can program the cheap consumer version ($1.6k) as though it were the expensive research version ($15k)

Very fun exercise

https://github.com/a-bissell/UnLeash-Lite

monster_truck 13 minutes ago | parent

I think you're overcomplicating things a little bit. A better example of this would be like what I did recently, where I needed to change some non-user-accessible values on a device, could not get ahold of the firmware, and the spec sheets were all behind NDA walls. Instead, I opened it up and read the flash directly, thankfully it was unencrypted, and let deepseek pick it apart and give me a script to fuck with various values including the one I wanted to edit.

Basically like using a gameshark/game genie with extra steps.

rootsudo 9 minutes ago | parent

great idea, thank you for this

coffeebeqn 1 hour ago | parent

That’s pretty cool you can dock it to full-fat Linux it looks like?

vbezhenar 51 minutes ago | parent

It's ordinary linux inside. You can connect it to any display with USB-C cable.

ChrisArchitect 1 hour ago | parent

Maybe this should be the link: https://flipper.net/products/flipper-one-preorder

Jemm 1 hour ago | parent

I read the page but not being an expert on Flipper I am not confident I can tell the difference from the Flipper Zero.

Eji1700 59 minutes ago | parent

Zero does mostly "radio" stuff (RFID, subghz, etc). One does mostly "network" stuff (wifi, 5g, etc).

miladyincontrol 57 minutes ago | parent

flipper zero is just a small device with an SMT32 MCU, flipper one is a whole bloody linux computer, with an rp2350

I suppose the idea is it combines workflows you'd use a flipper zero + pc for into one device. Neat in idea, im not certain who it's truly for in practice. A flipper zero 2 with wifi built in and some minor improvements would have been much more welcome in my eyes.

jubilee33 37 minutes ago | parent

I used it instead if needing to have a pocketful of access keys and garage/gate remotes. Also the remote control was great for random AC units or muting the sound on the airport lounge newsmax horror television.

but it broke too much and I found a better solution

bronson 23 minutes ago | parent

Don't leave us hanging! What's the better solution for you?

monster_truck 19 minutes ago | parent

The wifi board works fine with the zero, integrating it into the device is a pain in the ass, far from a 'minor' improvement.

et-al 41 minutes ago | parent

Yeah, they should have included a comparison on the Kickstart page. If you check out the "we need your help" page, that has a chart with "Zero vs One":

https://blog.flipper.net/flipper-one-we-need-your-help/

The two devices are complementary.

GuB-42 34 minutes ago | parent

It is a completely different device.

Flipper Zero is for the physical layer: radio, RFID, IR, etc... It is based on a small microcontroller and is mostly "bare metal", think Arduino, ESP32,...

Flipper One is for the network layer: Ethernet, Wi-Fi, 5G, etc... It is a "real computer" running Linux, like a Raspberry Pi.

forvelin 59 minutes ago | parent

what are their connection with Russian Federation ? all their job ads asked for russian iirc.

kgeist 55 minutes ago | parent

The original developers are from Russia. They now seem to have an office in London

sigmoid10 53 minutes ago | parent

Flipper was born in Moscow from a collab mostly made of Russians and Ukrainians. They were pretty outspoken against the attack on Ukraine and have moved headqurters and almost completely relocated their employees since then.

jubilee33 59 minutes ago | parent

I wish they would sell more replacement parts for the old ones. Like the main board or the sub boards. I have broken mine twice from daily pocket use in wet environments and I don't feel like scrounging parts anymore.

dang 58 minutes ago | parent

Related - others?

Flipper One – we need your help - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48220647 - May 2026 (482 comments)

Flipper One Tech Specs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48212046 - May 2026 (177 comments)

devmor 55 minutes ago | parent

My only concern with ordering a Flipper One is import controls. I've heard of Zeros getting seized in customs.

supersimpleguy 4 minutes ago | parent

Absolutely a thing. I’ve got documentation that says I work in ITSEC but I’ve never been stopped with mine. However I don’t travel to BRIC-aligned countries for the most part so YMMV.

I tend to wipe mine before international travel and just stick on IR remote stuff, juuuust in case someone wants to ask a lot of questions. It’s easy enough to restore the back up I take beforehand.

imzadi 51 minutes ago | parent

How long is the pre-order window? I didn't see that on the site, but might have missed it.

MOARDONGZPLZ 33 minutes ago | parent

Until the Kickstarter starts, which is planned for November. At which point you can redeem the coupon and back the Kickstarter and get it at a “special price” which is estimated to be $379 (might change up or down). Presumably this is lower than the Kickstarter price itself without the reservation coupon. A bit of a convoluted system, but you can get your $20 back anytime, and it automatically refunds if you don’t back the Kickstarter or the Kickstarter never launches, so that’s cool.

vr46 51 minutes ago | parent

I already nabbed my coupon for the pre-order last week - looks super cool!

My F0 is always close at hand, doing everything from being my go-to trigger for whatever random thing I'm playing with, to being an instant output for any signal I'm trying to read. Plus it's a really fun educational tool for myself and various kids around - I keep a load of little NFC 216 tags around, in my bag, in a pouch attached to my Mac, and showing both young and old how to use them, and read them with the phone, leads to conversations about treasure hunts, hiding them in the pub, showing counters with amusing messages...

We used it as a metronome the other day with its blue light, and on the flip side I've been looking at ways to integrate it into my EDC as a modern key, or a programmable keyring. It isn't super-secure, but that does make it easier to work with.

I'm excited about the F1, mainly curious about its logic analyzer capabilities, since I'm actually designing and building one - even it is fifty times worse than a commercial one, I just want to know how they work. And these little devices help find out how other things work.

tamimio 29 minutes ago | parent

Battery life?!

Also, this feels.. redundant, i already have those in my laptop, unlike flipper zero, it was about radio, rfid, nfc, ir, among others with great battery life. Right now my laptop i had it customized with modular 5g modem, SDR, meshcore, alfa, among others.

sbarre 29 minutes ago | parent

The High Boy is a similar device that seems to incorporate radio and network, but I think it has a few less features?

https://highboy.com.br/

Animats 26 minutes ago | parent

Is it wise to buy this until someone has taken one apart and checked for backdoors?

dgellow 24 minutes ago | parent

What kind of backdoor would you expect in such a device?

kristopolous 24 minutes ago | parent

Is this going to also be at some nose-bleed sky-high ransom price like everything else computer these days?

What are we looking at? $400? $500?

Just as a reminder, last year, as in 2025, a raspberry pi with 8gb was $89... so please don't tell me that paying $400 or $500 for this is normal and expected.

embedding-shape 21 minutes ago | parent

Does your browser not handle <a> tags or something? The preorder site says $379 multiple times, all over the place.

kristopolous 16 minutes ago | parent

this was the original link: https://docs.flipper.net/one also the new link doesn't have $ on it's body anywhere or the text "37" yet alone "$379"

this one does https://flipper.net/products/flipper-one-preorder

I still stand by it. I'm not buying anything at these extortionist cartel prices. Not a single $500 usb thumb drive or $1500 ram or $2000 platter and certainly not at $400 thing that would have cost $100 last year.

elAhmo 20 minutes ago | parent

$379 + $20 for the preorder coupon

supersimpleguy 12 minutes ago | parent

If only there was some kind of website that talked about the product, linked here on HN.

I guess we’ll just never know.

Genuine question, how do you get through the day?

monster_truck 16 minutes ago | parent

I really like my zero, I don't use it daily, nor would I want to.

But when I do actually need it, for doing something like reading/flashing SPI, I'm very happy I have it.

auguzanellato 14 minutes ago | parent

Sigh, all I wanted was a Zero successor with a more powerful MCU to mess around with, this seems more like a mini PC of sorts.

supersimpleguy 11 minutes ago | parent

It’s got M.2 and GPIO. This is exactly what you just asked for, but for some reason you saw a picture of it plugged into a monitor and declared it nothing more than a mini PC.

dalben 12 minutes ago | parent

Just last week I was trying to sell my Flipper Zero as I don't use it. Even though it's legal, my listings have been deleted as the platforms are overzealous as it "might be used for hacking".

Well, if anyone is looking for one in Europe, let me know.