121 points speckx 1 hour ago 60 comments

Retr0id 1 hour ago | parent

I'd appreciate if someone could dump the iOS "adult websites" list (which are blocked by default in the UK unless you submit government ID etc.)

ilumanty 1 hour ago | parent

Wait, are you saying iOS UK Edition blocks adult websites on the OS level?

Retr0id 1 hour ago | parent

Yup! Any webkit web view, and iOS doesn't allow any non-webkit web views (in this jurisdiction at least)

matthewmacleod 12 minutes ago | parent

This is just a straight-up lie.

flanz_10 1 hour ago | parent

It's not a list, it's a series of ML classifications. Basically, you've got "child mode" locked on. The solution is to not use a UK apple id.

Retr0id 1 hour ago | parent

An ML classifier running against the DNS name? Really?

flanz_10 5 minutes ago | parent

Not really DNS. They're actually checking the entire URL. They also check page content and other metadata.

If you're having distinct dns blocking errors, that's not Apple or it's a profile that's been set on your device.

swid 1 hour ago | parent

This is interesting… does anyone have data in theirs? It also feels like something they could have put on an intern and it didn’t really gain any traction. Each app would need to “tell” the OS who the receiver is, and the article indicates there is no API to do that. Maybe it just knows, but how could that be?

_false 1 hour ago | parent

if autocorrect is disabled this will be empty

hmokiguess 1 hour ago | parent

ah that explains it

verytrivial 1 hour ago | parent

I have a MacBook that was meant to replace my aging Windows and Linux laptops. This article is a microcosm of why I have just stopped using it. An endless stream of mollycoddling, obfuscation and "It's for your own good, child" trash. I can't even bring myself to sell it because I'm ashamed of it.

lrvick 1 hour ago | parent

Install Linux on it and carve a big X over the apple logo

awesome_dude 1 hour ago | parent

I have Asahi on my mac book mini - it turns a nice piece of hardware into a wonderful computer to use :)

watwut 1 hour ago | parent

But ... the point of that vulgar words list is to STOP autocorrecting them when it detects intentional use.

mahboi 1 hour ago | parent

Also you can disable autocorrect. I don't even have this list.

yborg 1 hour ago | parent

The parent post is a microcosm of why he's actually not using the Macbook - he doesn't understand how it works.

ajjenkins 1 hour ago | parent

Why would “trump” be considered an offensive term? My understanding of the database is to prevent you from accidentally typing offensive or words being autocorrected to something offensive. Like if I misspell “helper” I don’t want that to be autocorrected to “hitler”.

It’s surprising to me that “trump” would get the same classification. Given that he’s the current president of the US, I’m sure people intentionally type his name all the time. I don’t want my keyboard to steer me away from writing out “trump”. And typos autocorrecting to Trump don’t seem like a big deal either. Would anyone be offended by the text “don’t forget to bring your Trump to band practice”?

monster_truck 1 hour ago | parent

They're really passionate about Euchre (in a negative way) over in Cupertino

ixtli 1 hour ago | parent

just read the article and trump (unless its the word for fart as in the uk) is marked as sensitive.

n2d4 1 hour ago | parent

Trump is marked as sensitive, not offensive; along with words like "God", "Jews", and "gun"

edf13 1 hour ago | parent

Here in the UK it means fart

Larrikin 1 hour ago | parent

A reasonable explanation is proposed in the article

freehorse 36 minutes ago | parent

> Would anyone be offended by the text “don’t forget to bring your Trump to band practice”?

Trump could be offended. It is obviously there to avoid offending Trump.

And it is not considered "offensive" but "sensitive".

anonymous908213 1 hour ago | parent

Somebody please kill Claude I'm so fucking tired of reading this grating writing. Technology was a mistake

hugodan 1 hour ago | parent

If you find something funnier than Oedipus, I want to hear about it.

smcin 41 minutes ago | parent

'Bacchus', 'Hooters' are also in the lists. 'Pornhub' but not 'OnlyFans'/'OF'.

I'm reminded of how Cartman on South Park used to sneak in terms like 'catamite'. Steganographized archaic terms.

ixtli 20 minutes ago | parent

I feel the same way.

lioeters 4 minutes ago | parent

This was the funniest comment I read today.

It's an honest expression of the cultural burnout and second-hand AI overdose many of us are suffering. It's a form of mental pollution, and it's getting harder to breathe.

CalChris 1 hour ago | parent

Right on Trump and wrong on Putin.

ixtli 1 hour ago | parent

Incredible that 'conservatards' is in there but not 'libtard'. I thought the right was always being censored!

CodeWriter23 1 hour ago | parent

It's the exception that proves the rule

warkdarrior 1 hour ago | parent

The author must have bought MAGA edition of the MBP. The AOC edition has 'libtard' in it, surely.

MBCook 1 hour ago | parent

That is odd. Hadn’t occurred to me.

nonethewiser 57 minutes ago | parent

libtard and conservatard are both there on when I tested on my Mac 26.2

nancyminusone 52 minutes ago | parent

I don't think I have ever seen 'conservatards' before today

freehorse 34 minutes ago | parent

First time I heard that word too. Which proves the point /s

People are reading too much into this.

ixtli 21 minutes ago | parent

I commented this here for this precise reason. `Libtard` is definitely a word people on the internet use but the other one ive literally never seen before. Someone went out of their way to add one and not the other. I agree though that, ehem, rightoids are supremely sensitive tho.

bluebarbet 50 minutes ago | parent

Just in time for America's ongoing discovery that "liberal" and "conservative" are in fact quite similar ideologies. New insults are called for. I propose "progtard" and "reactard".

what 14 minutes ago | parent

Progcels be seething over reactchads.

DeluluDon 9 minutes ago | parent

IRC is that way ->

ixtli 22 minutes ago | parent

I think downvoters may not have realized i was being sarcastic with my second sentence.

nonethewiser 1 hour ago | parent

Apple's built-in dictionary flags on my Mac: 26.2, which is newer than the article's 15.6. Apple has changed several things since:

  ┌───────────────┬────────────────┬──────────────────────────────────────────┐
  │               │ Article (15.6) │             My Mac   (26.2)              │
  ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
  │ Total entries │ 199,019        │ 199,940                                  │
  ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
  │ Vulgar        │ 1,050          │ 850                                      │
  ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
  │ Offensive     │ 663            │ 727                                      │
  ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
  │ Sensitive     │ 2,558          │ 2,748                                    │
  ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
  │ Oedipus       │ vulgar         │ sensitive (sex topic)                    │
  ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
  │ cooties       │ vulgar         │ clean                                    │
  ├───────────────┼────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────┤
  │ Biden         │ clean          │ now tagged politics topic, still no tier │
  └───────────────┴────────────────┴──────────────────────────────────────────┘

  These are unchanged:
  - Trump is still sensitive with the politics topic. The lowercase card-game word "trump" is still
    clean.
  - Obama, Putin, Vance and Harris have no tier. Musk still isn't in the dictionary.
  - Tom and Mick are still offensive, and pee, poo, niggle, underling, blacklist and Isis are still
    sensitive.
  - idiot is still sensitive, and now also has the catch-all "sensitive context" topic.

  Words in the capitalized sensitive list that the article doesn't mention include Saddam, Grindr,
  Oedipus/Oedipal, TERF and Viagra. Trump is still the only living politician among them.

rdtsc 1 hour ago | parent

    Putin clean
    Stalin clean
Somehow Mao is there. But Pol Pot isn't. I would have guessed they'd go by the number of victims. But I guess "Uncle Joe" is clean and uncontroversial, so someone was confused about history. But yeah, this has that "Cupertino interns typed this list" feel to it.

baggachipz 1 hour ago | parent

> Every other real person on that list is dead, and nearly all of them are Nazi officials, dictators or terrorists. Then there's Trump

If the shoe fits....

Y_Y 1 hour ago | parent

you must acquit

walthamstow 41 minutes ago | parent

Surely the first HN user to be named after a Brummie drag queen

deprave 1 hour ago | parent

Why does Apple need to keep these in a separate database? I thought they removed filtering, maybe subject to user age or parental controls, not added a whole mechanism to manage it.

jmbwell 1 hour ago | parent

This is about autocorrect learning words you like to use that it should consider potentially intentional use of words it might otherwise think you typed accidentally

It’s adaptive non-censorship

thinkingemote 1 hour ago | parent

Would it be possible to get versions of the files to see when certain words got added and I imagine certain words got removed? Could be interesting to correlate certain events, personalities, trends, memes, controversies etc with the changes.

It was added in 23 so there's potentially 3 years of updates.

Edits: This comment shows differences between 15.6 and 26.2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50358223

whycome 1 hour ago | parent

Does this play a role in why the keyboard on iOS is so fucking enraging? It used to be amazing.

MBCook 29 minutes ago | parent

No. That is a separate INCREDIBLY OBNOXIOUS issue.

Can’t believe they don’t fix it year after year.

busymom0 14 minutes ago | parent

When the first iOS 27 beta came out, it was actually really good for me. But later betas and now the public release ruined it once again. It's unbelievable how bad it is.

rappatic 1 hour ago | parent

> I dumped Apple's word list

Claude dumped Apple's word list, and obviously wrote the article too.

kulahan 54 minutes ago | parent

The calculator did the math!

alex43578 39 minutes ago | parent

You didn't write this comment, your keyboard did.

breznev 4 minutes ago | parent

Yup. Something about this sentence reeks of Opus 5.5: "The one exception is the n-word: it is in the list in English and several other languages, and I'm not writing it out."

nonethewiser 1 hour ago | parent

There is a lot more interesting stuff to mine from this.

The phrase blocklist for the Chinese lanaguge is a lot larger (surprise, surprise). It about 281 KB for Simplified Chinese, 325 KB for Traditional and 160 KB for Cantonese, against 28 KB for English.

apparently there are `shouldShowTaiwanFlagEmoji()` and `deviceIsChinese()` functions as well but that doesn't have anything to do with this database.

jooize 1 hour ago | parent

giving fixing ducking

How do I make iOS let me swipe “fucking” everywhere? fucking

fucking fucking fucking!! After typing it manually two or three times it then swipe completes in this particular text field in this app. I've heard about adding a contact with the words, but that is ridiculous, so I have held out hoping Apple will eventually come to their senses, like a fool.

This doesn't make “fuck” swipeable either… unless I type it once, and keep it in the text field!

swiftcoder 1 hour ago | parent

The vulgar db doesn't exist at all (nor the ~/Library/Keyboards directory) on my Tahoe install. Weird

dr_pardee 30 minutes ago | parent

It didn't for me either but macOS was trying to write to it and failed so I had Claude fix it: https://gist.github.com/ericpardee/4ca8d9d46d03d3d92b1887f47...