42 points karakoram 1 hour ago 51 comments
lambdadelirium 1 hour ago | parent
ShadowOfThePit 1 hour ago | parent
Also...
> Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.
ShadowOfThePit 1 hour ago | parent
> He describes using AI agents as getting help with “almost anything that you do in your day-to-day life. (...) Almost anything you want to do, it knows you, and it’s there to help. And it will actually sort of run ahead and say, ‘What about this?’ Or it’ll help you see around corners.”
Wow, impressive. Both the capabilities and how much he's willing to share.
Is it worth $17k per month? For me, absolutely not. But people spend more on luxurious cars and such, so if you've got money to spare...
> Y Combinator is also using an agent that is “rebuilding the way we operate at YC. We now have an internal AI agent, for instance, named Stray Light that kind of has a personality, and then it has a company brain. It actually has the total context of every founder we’ve ever backed, anyone who’s ever emailed us, like all the applications.”
Holy anthropomorphization. But besides that, what's the goal of doing this? Keeping a handy overview of when and why someone said something?
randysalami 57 minutes ago | parent
Because they can. It’s as simple as that. To find meaning, to feel in control, to win. To dominate.
switchers 46 minutes ago | parent
dreadsword 13 minutes ago | parent
27183 40 minutes ago | parent
SpicyLemonZest 32 minutes ago | parent
You'd be surprised how important such an overview can be in relationship-based businesses. People spend a lot of time trying to track down a vague memory they have of someone telling them something. CRM platforms are big for a reason, after all.
ex1fm3ta 1 hour ago | parent
A_D_E_P_T 1 hour ago | parent
(Figures vary, see e.g. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/christham_4-weeks-on-claude-2... for $13,700/mo.)
If you hit your limits on two Max 20x plans, you could very well be exceeding $300k/yr in token use at current API rates.
pu_pe 47 minutes ago | parent
bartread 1 hour ago | parent
I wouldn't say this was the norm, but I have burned through £1k of tokens in a couple of days before. And, on that same gig, I realised a test I was considering running would burn £2.5k worth of tokens over the course of a few hours so spent a couple of hours of my own time re-engineering it to get that down to £150.
The point is that I don't necessarily know that spending a shitload of money on tokens really tells us anything useful. If he's getting a return on that investment, fine, whatever.
Obviously most of us couldn't afford to spend that much ourselves, no matter how much value it might deliver, and many of our employers wouldn't be too happy if we spent it on their dime either. Equally, if you can, and it's delivering real value, then I don't see why you wouldn't?
nodesocket 22 minutes ago | parent
hartjer 53 minutes ago | parent
up2isomorphism 48 minutes ago | parent
jgalt212 45 minutes ago | parent
meindnoch 43 minutes ago | parent
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georgemcbay 21 minutes ago | parent
Garry Tan is fully aligned with Elon Musk in going after MacKenzie Scott's charitable giving, making spurious arguments that she's doing it in the wrong way when they are all just running cover for the fact that she's one of the few at that level of wealth being charitable at all these days.
Silly woman, she should give her money away the right way, which I guess is by attempting to buy political power.
Jtsummers 12 minutes ago | parent
https://garryslist.org/posts/mackenzie-scott-s-26-billion-su... - The rant itself.
vrganj 41 minutes ago | parent
georgemcbay 31 minutes ago | parent
"Garry, this is a text file".
qwr1 19 minutes ago | parent
Software? I'm not aware of anything.
fantasizr 46 minutes ago | parent
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itishappy 5 minutes ago | parent
> “It’s too expensive right now,” he said, adding that he knows the amount of money he spends on AI agents is “a crazy privilege that not everyone can do.”
johnfn 18 minutes ago | parent
wahnfrieden 44 minutes ago | parent
ks2048 44 minutes ago | parent
glennfiedler 38 minutes ago | parent
digitaltrees 37 minutes ago | parent
bix6 31 minutes ago | parent
Sleep is one of the most important things in the world. Why not have the agents work while you sleep?
itishappy 26 minutes ago | parent
It was productive, but as you say, it's dangerous to gamble with sleep.
hackyhacky 26 minutes ago | parent
Even better, why not have the agents sleep for you?
EDIT: for those who say this is not realistic, I've had Claude sleep for 10 hours in just 30 seconds. Saved me an entire night.
thephyber 10 minutes ago | parent
People in psychosis don't exactly weigh all of the options with a level head. He may not recognize that he has "cyber psychosis" or that his lack of sleep is a bad thing.
stego-tech 29 minutes ago | parent
Not cloud costs, though; consumer costs. These agents must run on-device for privacy protections, because anything less will be a global non-starter. That means we need models that excel on phones, tablets, laptops, and desktops; we need home compute modules to run larger, “frontier”-class models for bigger tasks but without guzzling electricity (the Mac Mini’s power envelope is an ideal target); we need smart harnesses that can foist off inference to bigger models elsewhere on your private network of devices as needed without the user prompting for specific thinking modes or model names. All of this has to happen automatically, privately, securely, without leaking data to advertisers or surveillance companies.
It’s hard work, but it’s definitely the future of AI. I would argue the business case is solved with being able to build bespoke stacks of kit and run models through neocloud providers with ZDR policies. It’s the consumer angle that’s hard to crack, because everyone wants a repeat of Web 2.0 for ad-dollars instead of a privacy-centric modern tech stack that forces companies into lower revenue streams.
Dr_Birdbrain 18 minutes ago | parent
The future of personal assistants is most likely akin to Muse Spark, and yes I expect Meta is training on all of those interactions and using them to target ads.
argee 16 minutes ago | parent
I beg to differ.
"People just submitted it. I don't know why. They 'trust me.' Dumb fucks."
- Mark Zuckerbergmiltonlost 26 minutes ago | parent
This is insane. He's turning the failure of his AI assistants to do what he wants every single time and to do it in a safe manner into a positive thing. Failure as a positive!
m3kw9 24 minutes ago | parent
slopinthebag 23 minutes ago | parent
lbrito 18 minutes ago | parent
That's basically gstack