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Gemini Omni 1.2 Flash

80 points thisisauserid 1 hour ago 49 comments

jonkrone 1 hour ago | parent

Wait, I thought we were on Gemini 4?

seunosewa 1 hour ago | parent

Omni is a video model.

brookst 59 minutes ago | parent

It’s still bad versioning and will confuse people.

LtdJorge 57 minutes ago | parent

Which, from a naming standpoint, doesn't make any sense

rdtsc 41 minutes ago | parent

But it still starts with “Gemini”. It would be better if they called it Gemini Omni 4, 4.1 etc. Otherwise call it just Omni 1.2 and drop the Gemini prefix.

LoganDark 13 minutes ago | parent

But it's not version 4 of Gemini Omni. It's version 1.2 of Gemini Omni. 4 is for normal Gemini.

pyjarrett 18 minutes ago | parent

It would be incredibly helpful to me if AI model names followed cars.

I'm not scratching my head about a "2025 Corolla." Windows 95 and 2000 had this built in, but then they lost it.

I'd prefer it was called Omni 2026.2 instead. It embeds a date and model and would package it as a product for on-premise or local hosting. It'd be easier to sell to the bean counters in the future: "We're running Omni 2026.2, we want to upgrade to Omni 2028."

NitpickLawyer 58 minutes ago | parent

Waiting for someone to test it with "~~A pelican~~Will Smith eating pasta while riding a bicycle" or something...

iruoy 56 minutes ago | parent

At least this one is available immediately.

tabbiee 55 minutes ago | parent

Price is $1.50 in Input and $9.00/$12.00 (text/video) in Output per 1M tokens

thisisauserid 54 minutes ago | parent

Extending an exiting video by 15 seconds is pretty nuts.

dude250711 51 minutes ago | parent

That is sad... I tried to guess and ignore AI videos (created to be deliberately misleading as "realistic") by length, but I guess that time is over now.

sirmike_ 51 minutes ago | parent

it’s a shame that Google/Gemini decided to restrict and fuck other adventurous yet extremely gracious paying customers; who were excited at the prospect of not being locked in to two obnoxious companies.

oh well, I guess we’ll just have to take that enthusiasm and roll it over to all the open weights on providers like fireworks.ai. or others.

i’m so happy I got in early and paid for $200 a month for shit ass Opus 4.6 and sonnet 4.6 and being locked into the absolutely limited Gemini 3.8 flash.

azan_ 42 minutes ago | parent

> who were excited at the prospect of not being locked in to two obnoxious companies.

Is being locked in to three obnoxious companies that much better?

poilcn 35 minutes ago | parent

Somewhere in the middle of the video it would suddenly scroll one screen back, happens with all videos on the page, eh

4pkjai 33 minutes ago | parent

noticed that too

hulkmusic 21 minutes ago | parent

When playback ends on one of the videos, the page jumps back to that video for some reason. I saw this too when I had multiple videos playing at once and the earlier clip on the page finished while watching another one lower on the page.

wxce 35 minutes ago | parent

It's insane how Google has dropped the ball almost completely with AI.

I literally don't care about their models anymore because I can't even try them without paying for them?

I already pay for the plus plan but whatever their latest model was, is locked for me. Or otherwise it's just not accessible for me.

If I try to add balance to my Google payment account, it shows me errors and is asking me to verify my identity through government documents.

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Not to mention the extremely confusing terminology. "Flash", "Experimental". Why are most of your models either of those two? I don't get the confidence that your models are any good because of such names. Give me a normal reliable model!

Even if Google releases AGI tier models in the future, I'll always look for other models because Google clearly thinks their models are too good for any of us.

jorl17 30 minutes ago | parent

There have been months where we've paid 1500€ for my AI models, but I can't bother with Google's models because I literally don't know how to get them. Every time I look it up it looks incredibly cumbersome and confusing. It's not clear which models I get, if I can get them on my personal accounts or need the work account. It's just too confusing.

I am a Google Workspace customer by the way (have multiple accounts, actually!).

Google must really not care about me as a customer, and instead only care about the enterprise.

shooker435 26 minutes ago | parent

It's confusing for enterprises, too. Believe it or not, the cloud sales team recommends hiring partners to set up basic auth and "landing zones" for the APIs.

sebzim4500 25 minutes ago | parent

The only sane way is to do it through openrouter. I spent hours trying to figure out how to use one of their two competing APIs that expose the models natively, it ended up being a waste of time.

jorl17 10 minutes ago | parent

Yes, I do that to do quick tests of the model, but I am looking for the subsidized monthly subscription, which everyone else has. I won't use it otherwise.

e12e 10 minutes ago | parent

I'm quite happy using antigravity fwiw. I use Claude code for work. Only tried agy because I was already paying for Google one (youtube music, youtube without ads/premium and a few TB of storage).

Antigravity come with Google's models and anthropic - so Gemini 4 Argon, Gemini 3.8 Flash, Claude Opus 5.5 Claude Sonnet 5.5 and GPT-OSS 120B.

Agy is better than Claude code in some ways and vice versa.

Google models are great.

Ironically google music is so terrible I've uninstalled it and use Metrolist exclusively.

I think google models do a decent job helping me put together a blog, for example:

https://hypertekst.net

(Content is typical 90s homepage stuff, not great. But model voice isn't as grating as Claude - and while it has a "look" I think it's s bit better).

ttul 29 minutes ago | parent

AI Studio is legitimately the worst UX experience on the internet. For a company with unlimited cash and the ability to hire the best talent, I just don’t get it. Give nearly anyone else a few hours alone with that codebase and Opus-5.5 and it will be looking 1,000x better.

Imustaskforhelp 9 minutes ago | parent

Google has an near monopoly on Internet ads (or rather a duo-poly combined with Facebook). Having such an monopoly makes them have hindsights on what they are doing and how they are failing, or even if they do, the incentives and management just aren't cleanly aligned with what ought to be the case.

dataflow 17 minutes ago | parent

> I literally don't care about their models anymore because I can't even try them without paying for them?

Where are you finding ways to try e.g. Opus without paying for it?

WarmWash 12 minutes ago | parent

Flash-lite haiku luna

Flash sonnet tera

Pro Opus Sol

Argon Fable Astra

These are the (approximately) equivalent model classes between the labs

Experimental means not production, so liable to change in the near future if you decide to build on it.

Omni is a video editing model, and flash implies it's a lighter weight one than what they have/could have. The other labs don't have competing models here.

Willingham 30 minutes ago | parent

The rollout is so confusing. Going straight to the Gemini app and asking when I can use this model gets me vague and contradicting answers. Ultimately it sounds like the Vids rollout will take 1-3 days, and you can go to vids.new on desktop to see if you’ve won the lottery and have it available now, apparently on any free Google account. Business accounts can use it too. Meanwhile the Gemini app is getting it on paid plans, but with different video length limits and no clear rollout timeline. If you pay for the API, it’s available now apparently.

Why is this so difficult to figure out?

jcelerier 22 minutes ago | parent

I opened ai studio and i see it popping up, on a normal account: https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat?model=gemini-om...

WarmWash 22 minutes ago | parent

https://flow.google.com/ is where most people would use the model. You get credits with your monthly sub that you can spend on flow.

bmiekre 23 minutes ago | parent

Why do we need this?

collabs 21 minutes ago | parent

A simple observation I have

> https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-publish-prod/med...

Text from the first paragraph on the page says

> Today, we’re rolling out Gemini Omni 1.2 Flash, and making it generally available across the Gemini API and Gemini for business. Gemini Omni 1.2 Flash introduces native 15-second video creation, multi-turn conversational editing capabilities, and enhanced reference following. We have dropped the price 30% from Gemini Omni 1.1 making it available at $0.07 per second for 720p video.

Focus on this part

> We have dropped the price 30%

The text to speech audio says

> We have dropped the price 3%

liveoneggs 19 minutes ago | parent

They built a youtube-immolation machine - but to what end?

armcat 20 minutes ago | parent

Completely random, but I was inspecting the source code for their Omni 1.2 Flash web page, and there are insane amount of newlines. There are seven newlines between the first line and the DOCTYPE. There are huge amount of newlines between each section. What did they use to generate this website?

origini 14 minutes ago | parent

Enterprise websites have often enough this issue.

they might have a composer layer which loads certain components (transparent to you) with and without authentication and mixing different backend sources.

Then they might have templating engines and frameworks.

Sometimes they just don't care but lets be honest: a few new lines are a few bytes.

But the most critical pages go through optimizers for traffic

LoganDark 14 minutes ago | parent

Kebab

mikelopez 20 minutes ago | parent

I don't trust Google on AI. They should do an spin off if they want to be relevant in AI.

amunozo 15 minutes ago | parent

DeepMind would be a good name for it!

syntaxing 12 minutes ago | parent

Hot take, Google should focus on their open weight models. I use Qwen 3.8 and it’s been amazing. I would pay for Max but there’s no provider or server here in the states. If they had an amazing Gemma 5, I would seriously consider trying their closed source models. Model comfort and familiarity is a real thing.

rudolftheone 11 minutes ago | parent

Google, just go back to making products instead of throwing announcements.

srge 9 minutes ago | parent

Not going to even read this post. While I have been really bullish on Google I am now tired of them constantly baiting us with vaporware announcements unfortunately.