36 points sonabinu 1 hour ago 44 comments
ddxv 52 minutes ago | parent
sharemywin 33 minutes ago | parent
wtch98 22 minutes ago | parent
The larger problem of a collapse is the recession as the whole house of cards falls down, with a government unwilling or unable to stimulate the economy new-deal style.
lotsofpulp 18 minutes ago | parent
It does not seem easy to figure out the ultimate beneficiary:
https://x.com/arpitrage/status/1227667060987023361?a=p-ErOXN...
timmg 29 minutes ago | parent
People used to say that if you aren't paying for the product then you are the product. How do we think open weights will be different?
ceejayoz 28 minutes ago | parent
timmg 21 minutes ago | parent
The hard part about a wikipedia model, overall: it costs hundreds(?) of millions of dollars in compute to train these things. Will we be able to get enough donations to afford that?
ceejayoz 14 minutes ago | parent
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_...
Annual Budget: $207.5M
ddxv 22 minutes ago | parent
vrganj 16 minutes ago | parent
jorisw 45 minutes ago | parent
FinnKuhn 42 minutes ago | parent
> Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $1.5T Valuation (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50386597)
jaccola 11 minutes ago | parent
plutokras 37 minutes ago | parent
That still feels wildly overvalued. SpaceX went public at a $1.77 trillion valuation, and its P/E ratio is already a whopping 617.7. Anthropic doesn't even own data centers, rockets, a social media platform, or a profitable internet service.
irthomasthomas 32 minutes ago | parent
ceejayoz 27 minutes ago | parent
On the flip side, their valuation isn't mostly based on one person who could leave or go (more) insane at any time.
infecto 22 minutes ago | parent
winfredJa 16 minutes ago | parent
dawie 35 minutes ago | parent
Varelion 35 minutes ago | parent
BadBadJellyBean 35 minutes ago | parent
bitmasher9 20 minutes ago | parent
This is the ANT bet:
1. With current technology, using more computer resources will result in a measurably smarter model.
2. ANT will have more compute resources than anyone else for the next 5 years.
3. The intelligence gap provides meaningful competitive advantage.
4. The regulatory, monetary, or military environments don’t stop ANT from doing its work.
ernst_klim 9 minutes ago | parent
If better would always mean "economically expedient", we all would fly on hypersound commercial jets.
If $2 model in the hands of good engineer can do the same as $20 model, anthropic will be soon killed by self-hosted open-weight models.
throwa356262 18 minutes ago | parent
What assets do they have? A bunch of models that at best are 3 months before the competition? They barely own any hardware, everything they use is rented at a very high price.
Know how? Dont make me laugh. Google and deepseek are doing the innovations. When did Anthropic published a cool idea?
Infrastructure? They dont own any, and since their training and inference is notoriously inefficient they are bleeding money to data center providers.
Customers? Their customer list is shrinking by the day. Companies are reducing their token budget. Some completely moving to on-prem.
Mindshare? Your grandma probably knows what chatgpt is but claude? Also everyone on the left and right hate Anthropic.
Exactly what here is worth this much money??
I personally will pull out of any index fund that includes openai and anthropic. Let someone else loose their savings.
wwizo 12 minutes ago | parent
preommr 8 minutes ago | parent
Not because it's sensible (it isn't), but because of how much hype is behind it, which is all that matters nowadays.
lvoudour 6 minutes ago | parent
hisfraudulency 6 minutes ago | parent