Yet another Hacker News

rVPN – stealth VPN with end-to-end encryption

15 points michaelsbradley 36 minutes ago 7 comments

dieseltech 21 minutes ago | parent

> We believe privacy should be proven, not promised

Then instantly gives you a shell script that it pipes to `sudo bash`. The irony isn't lost here.

Carrok 19 minutes ago | parent

Also the suggested installation method of at least: rust, bun, uv, deno, and homebrew

Such a tired trope. If you want to do it the hard way, you are welcome to build by hand https://github.com/PDG-Global/rVPN-core#building

drum55 15 minutes ago | parent

Just because everyone else is doing it doesn't mean it's right.

hirako2000 18 minutes ago | parent

That's also the cost of providing convenience AND something that can open port 443

PUSH_AX 20 minutes ago | parent

There's only 4 mentions of Rust on the landing page. Are we sure this is memory safe enough?

tptacek 11 minutes ago | parent

Not sure why you'd vibe-code a new VPN protocol, double ratchet or otherwise, when you can just take WireGuard and make a new transport for it.

WireGuard by itself is not a stealth VPN, but the things that make a VPN "stealthy" are all things you'd layer on top of a WireGuard design, not thread through the middle of it. A datagram-based protocol can run under any obscured transport.

We did this at Fly.io when we discovered that, for one reason or another, 5% of our users simply couldn't reliably use UDP. It was a one-day project to run it under WebSockets instead, and that was before coding agents.

drum55 8 minutes ago | parent

Wireguard is both really useful and pretty frustrating as a user. As a developer it's amazing that you can do things like relay packets through a bouncer with authentication to get around NAT without ever having to think about the protocol level safety, as a user it's near impossible to configure without the confused "why are no packets working", and as you had here it just doesn't make it through a lot of restrictive networking conditions. I'd love some middle ground between wireguard and tailscale in terms of complexity, their clients have way too much stuff in them.

The parent is obviously just Claude making a fancy website and some sort of unreviewed networking protocol that's dressed up to look as if it's a real project. Github really needs to start showing commit cadence and repo birthdates.